Gearbox service

[CatmanV2]

Morning all. Just a question about the (at least on here) recommended service for my Petrol S ZF box.

Do I need anything else apart from the sump kit?

https://www.scuderiacarparts.com/part/435194/maserati/673003178/oil-sump-kit.html

And is there a cheaper alternative?

TIA

C

 

[CJ Romeo]

From previous researich, need genuine ZF sump with integral filter, gasket, connector sleeve and lifeguard 8 fluid.

https://aftermarket.zf.com/app/controller/ti/download/Binary/22f16dae-c571-11ec-a2e7-00505690da53.pdf

 

[CatmanV2]

From previous researich, need genuine ZF sump with integral filter, gasket, connector sleeve and lifeguard 8 fluid.

https://aftermarket.zf.com/app/controller/ti/download/Binary/22f16dae-c571-11ec-a2e7-00505690da53.pdf

Ta. There appear to be loads available rather less than Eurospares price of £279 *plus* fluid.

C

 

[conaero]

Are you doing it yourself?

It’s a pretty complicated procedure, you have to have it in a ramp, add the oil, heat the car to temp, use an infrared thermometer, and keep topping till it’s the right level. Definitely not a job on axle stands as the car has to be level.

 

[CatmanV2]

Are you doing it yourself?

It’s a pretty complicated procedure, you have to have it in a ramp, add the oil, heat the car to temp, use an infrared thermometer, and keep topping till it’s the right level. Definitely not a job on axle stands as the car has to be level.

Good *lord* no! Just getting the parts in for Auto Alfa!

C

 

[philw696]

The last one I bought was off Autodoc a full ZF kit with everything you need in the box.
Hook the car to diagnostic gear for the temperature of the oil and away you go.

 

[CatmanV2]

The last one I bought was off Autodoc a full ZF kit with everything you need in the box.
Hook the car to diagnostic gear for the temperature of the oil and away you go.

Bloody **** that oil is expensive. I will check with Auto Alfa that they have it in bulk as opposed to buying 7l at £26 a litre. Phil are you able to confirm that this is all I need (plus fluid?)

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/zf-getriebe/8824047?foundByGa=4921

Cheers bud!

C

 

[CJ Romeo]

https://www.buycarparts.co.uk/maserati/levante-closed-off-road-vehicle/119326/12315/automatic-transmission-filter

with and without oil, using the 364 and 365 codes ZF quote.

 

[philw696]

Bloody **** that oil is expensive. I will check with Auto Alfa that they have it in bulk as opposed to buying 7l at £26 a litre. Phil are you able to confirm that this is all I need (plus fluid?)

https://www.autodoc.co.uk/zf-getriebe/8824047?foundByGa=4921

Cheers bud!

C

Yes Chris and in real terms to keep the transmission in good working order it's not expensive.
Parts and labour to remove repair and refit will hurt lots more ££££££.

 

[CatmanV2]

https://www.buycarparts.co.uk/maserati/levante-closed-off-road-vehicle/119326/12315/automatic-transmission-filter

with and without oil, using the 364 and 365 codes ZF quote.

Yep. The extra parts are just oil.

Yes Chris and in real terms to keep the transmission in good working order it's not expensive.
Parts and labour to remove repair and refit will hurt lots more ££££££.

Of course. Given it's the same box in some of the Alfas I rather feel they may have a barrel in the corner. I'll check

C

 

[P R]

Arent the gearboxes on these non service items? The handbook quotes the gear oil then states "(2) No change and/or topping up expected in scheduled maintenance."

 

[CatmanV2]

Arent the gearboxes on these non service items? The handbook quotes the gear oil then states "(2) No change and/or topping up expected in scheduled maintenance."

Yeah. That's the theory. Same on the GT but the view of my trusted experts (here and at Auto Alfa) is you're not going to lose anything by servicing it. Plus I think on the BMW it's 50k recommendation. Could be wrong.

C

 

[philw696]

Arent the gearboxes on these non service items? The handbook quotes the gear oil then states "(2) No change and/or topping up expected in scheduled maintenance."

If you like playing Russian Roulette obey the manual.
I've changed many and the oil is always quite dirty against the new oil.
Long life oils are as crazy as EV's trust me I'm a time served mechanic 45 years on the spanners and worked for several manufacturers.

 

[Ebenezer]

I had a weeping gearbox bung back in 2017 at 53K which was sorted out and the gearbox "topped up", but seemingly the oil not replaced
Eb

 

[philw696]

I had a weeping gearbox bung back in 2017 at 53K which was sorted out and the gearbox "topped up", but seemingly the oil not replaced
Eb

Seriously if it's not been done I would put it on the list.
Ask for a sample of the old oil too.
I always put a little of the old and new in old plastic water bottles to show people.

 

[safrane]

We had our Mercedes auto done this year, even though the rec is at 70k miles.

Car is a 2016, with 20k miles, but the shifts are so much better now and they were good beforehand.

 

[philw696]

 

[CatmanV2]

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Yeah, I know. But Feli's never done this to me in 20+ years. He doesn't want to get the parts so....

C

 

[CJ Romeo]

My local general place now welcome the punters supplying parts (assuming they are correct) as their place is full of cars awaiting parts and irate punters chasing up for things that pre Brexit and COVID were available same/next day.