Goodwood Festival of Speed

[dem maser]

The 4C looks ugly, not sure about the styling, although, that matte red is awful.

Matt you said last time you were going to dangle him off a cliff......

 

[Gixerboy]

Hi all,

Just back after traffic jam from he'll on A34....
Anyway, thought the Alfa was different, although not sure on the Matt Paint, when we were their a guy was trying to keep it clean

Got to speak with Murray Walker about the TT, whilst at signing of his latest book! A true gent who was genuinely happy to chit chat!!
Regarding the Jaguar Centre Display... Mmmm not sure, Alfas was better last year IMO..

A Great Day. !

Dave

 

[GransportFan1]

Matt you said last time you were going to dangle him off a cliff......

I am sorry Dem but it is so fussy. Not for me, it wont sell either, 45-50k for an Alfa, dont make me laugh.

 

[Big Chris]

I am sorry Dem but it is so fussy. Not for me, it wont sell either, 45-50k for an Alfa, dont make me laugh.

Oh it will sell Adam, 50k is a lot of money, but there are a lot of Alfa fans out there who have stuck with the marque even as the cars literally fell apart around them. Rumour is a total production run of 15000 worldwide. About 3000 a year. Easy.
Of course, this assumes Alfa deliver on the promise of the concept...

 

[GransportFan1]

Mind you, they are not as bad as Lotus, talk about ambitious.

 

[Big Chris]

You have to admire their ambition, but I think they may have bitten a little bit more off than they can chew trying to develop so much product in such a short period...

 

[GransportFan1]

I cant see them selling the Eterne, the 4 door saloon, 140K. Dead before it is born.

 

[Big Chris]

I cant see them selling the Eterne, the 4 door saloon, 140K. Dead before it is born.

Especially when you compare it to the Rapide.

 

[GransportFan1]

And the Panamera, it is not pretty but is selling well worldwide. Also, would you buy a Lotus saloon over a QP??

Lotus are looking to build an Esprit, 80k, that will not sell, 15k more than a 911, same price as an Aston V8. People will not spend 80k on a Lotus regardless of how great it is, the Evora at 50k is much cheaper and that is not a big seller, i have never seen one on the road.

 

[Dan!]

Oh Adam, there are some well heeled Lotus faithful that'll buy a Gallardo look-a-like that handles.
And don't forget the the Air Asia connection and two* F1 teams bringing the name back to the world audience. If just 0.01% of the UK public bought the new products they'd go bust, however, if 0.01% of Asia bought they'll be a sensation.

And on that note, people pay £50k for a Lotus (Evora or SC Exige with toys) they'll defo pay £50k for the 4C.




*ok, the Jury is still out on quite how many Lotus teams there are....

 

[Dan!]

Remember the launch of the Volvo T5?
Wouldn't have worked without BTCC.
The power of marketing.

 

[GransportFan1]

Love the touring cars from the 90's, was there any today at Goodwood??

 

[NickP]

4C reminds me of a TVR Tamora with a hard roof..... I like it, not sure about the matt paint but I guess there will be other options?

 

[BennyD]

...yeah, take it or leave it. Probably.

 

[Andyk]

4C reminds me of a TVR Tamora with a hard roof..... I like it, not sure about the matt paint but I guess there will be other options?

Just had another look over the 4c....Funny how we all see something different in design..Can not see the Tamora in it myself...................Will say though I do like the Tamora

 

[GransportFan1]

Tamora, looks like a Yorkshire Pudding on wheels, i do like it though.

 

[Andyk]

Tamora, looks like a Yorkshire Pudding on wheels, i do like it though.

Ummmm...no don't see that either....

 

[GransportFan1]

Ummmm...no don't see that either....

i think it does, has a very round front and rear.

 

[Andyk]

When my local Lotus dealer was also a TVR dealer they had a Tamora with a T350 front end.......That looked really nice and it was in yellow Adam.....TVR should have made them all like that as it really suited it...

 

[Dan!]

Who else is going today?