Jay Emm’s Gransport

[Nayf]

I think the project car genre is relevant for a much much smaller share of the generic car enthusiasts group. You need to be in a mode of thinking/ researching to do a similar project in the not too distant future to spend the time. I just think that few people have the means and even fewer would consider it.

There is an element of vicarious living; I like watching Harry’s projects - and his channel generally - because he comes from an enthusiast position first (he may have set up Evo, but he was and is a farmer first) which means that his presenting style is a bit more relatable than the more polished ‘up and down’ way you’re ‘supposed’ to do video.
Similarly, I like watching Tyrell’s videos because they’re oddly calming. I’ve no idea how to wield a spanner but he’s another where it’s a genuinely knowledgeable person talking - if not in a polished way - about something they, er, know about, rather than opinions plucked from the internet and regurgitated.

I do appreciate I’m not a ‘normal’ viewer as I work in the industry, albeit from a different angle. I can’t stand broadcast car TV due to its contrived nature and the realities behind it - even though the people on the programmes are actually pretty decent people away from the cameras.

 

[williamsmix]

I think the project car genre is relevant for a much much smaller share of the generic car enthusiasts group. You need to be in a mode of thinking/ researching to do a similar project in the not too distant future to spend the time. I just think that few people have the means and even fewer would consider it.

I should add that going over the total cost and back and forth that Harry had to go through for his XJ and Zagato coupe scared me comprehensively. The reading at Magneto the legal column that advised on big project and pitfalls pushed further from undertaking a barn-find type of project, ever.

I do watch projects with a macabre fascination having been there done that with both cars and boats! Revenue derived through YouTube must be a help to folk attempting these feats of perseverance. Anything I ever did took me at least twice as long as I thought it would and cost me at least twice as much; all labours of love! ... No plans to go there again, for sure, when there are so many restored cars up for sale at very reasonable prices.

 

[Corranga]

He mentioned something about the low profile tyres perhaps being an issue and didn't come out of it as a massive fan of the gearbox, so I'm taking that as confirmation that a facelift Coupe GT is the ultimate version of the 4200

I don't think he was looking for a project car, he doesn't do that, and others on YT like friend of JayEmm Number 27 has been open and honest in his videos about car repair / maintenance / improvement videos not really getting the views. (Side note: If you do enjoy the fixing it side of things, try watching some of Mat Armstrong's videos - he's the one that utterly ruined a Granturismo, but if you can look past his taste in mods / appearance, there are some great videos in there, his Ferrari 430 videos have been fantastic, especially the detail he isn't afraid to go into on the engine rebuild stuff, his Murcielago ones were too, and actually the 911 GT3 he did in the US was also really interesting, and came out looking amazing)

He bought a high miler that was well maintained knowing exactly what it was, if nothing else, to me it's an endorsement that he believed the lasting ability of Maserati - equally, I think he wanted a cheap one so he could say "look what you can have for £16k" He did a very similar with a Porsche Cayenne, a couple of videos, and gone.

I think he bought it because he likes pretty Italian things and wanted it to work, much like probably a lot of us on here, except he can afford to play with it and move onto something else. Perhaps he needed to check it off the list, get to know it in a way you can't if you're just borrowing a car for a few miles, and it landed right where you expect it to, it's not a great daily when you're looking to cart around a bunch of camera gear, and multiple folk. It's decent at short holidays with 3 or 4 folk, but adults aren't used to clambering in the back of 2 door cars nowadays, and it's always going to be a compromise. I like that he framed it in the sports car realm rather than rough / **** GT as some have, I like that he spoke about how he really liked it when using as intended, overall, a pretty reasonable video, and certainly goes someway to reframe our cars in a positive light

As someone else said, I wouldn't be surprised to see it appearing on Dad cars due to the friendship and it being an obvious fit.

 

[3hcp]

Much as I think a late 4200 gt manual would fit the bill price wise I suspect a Granturismo zf sport auto mc shift is the perfect vehicle for him

 

[c4sman]

I’m think he’s alright for a YTuber but find the justification for buying and selling a bit weird (other than the need to flip cars for more content). Why would you sell a sorted QP for the GS if its sole purpose was a practical family car with good boot space that was interesting and fun. Surely if the QP didn’t tick the box, how the **** was a GS going to do it when the complaints as I remember we’re ride quality, boot space, gearbox and fuel economy?

I suspect the intro vid didn’t generate the engagement he’d hoped for (although 165k views seems middle of the road for his channel so could be worse).

 

[3hcp]

Well I went from a 4200 gt to a Quattroporte cc which I found too big and clunky back to a manual Spyder so I can see his reasoning but as a daily a Granturismo zf would be better.

 

[ChrisQP09]

So this Dad’s cars has now pushed a video saying he is getting rid of his DB9!

Could this be in preparation to take Jay Ems Mas?

 

[corradokid]

So this Dad’s cars has now pushed a video saying he is getting rid of his DB9!

Could this be in preparation to take Jay Ems Mas?

I think he has been trying to sell it for a while

 

[c4sman]

Well I went from a 4200 gt to a Quattroporte cc which I found too big and clunky back to a manual Spyder so I can see his reasoning but as a daily a Granturismo zf would be better.

I’d say your experience makes more sense than the route he has gone considering how many cars he test drives and owns as the compromises of a GS are pretty obvious for the use case without even driving one (the boots too small for example).

 

[c4sman]

I think he has been trying to sell it for a while

He’s already tested JEs car and decided the granturismo is a better fit

 

[conaero]

I’ve not watched his vid yet but will. He messaged me a few weeks back to say he was selling it on.

The one thing I will say about a GS (and yes I have owned 2 and loved them) it the suspension is just too crashy for modern, potholed roads.

 

[safrane]

I’ve not watched his vid yet but will. He messaged me a few weeks back to say he was selling it on.

The one thing I will say about a GS (and yes I have owned 2 and loved them) it the suspension is just too crashy for modern, potholed roads.

Totally agree Matt, and have been saying the same since I bought mine 10 years ago... its the one thing that ruins the experience until you get to a smooth European road.

 

[Guy]

Interestingly, I completely agree with Matt and Peter in Sport mode but out of that it is not so bad. Not great but not terrible either.
Ultimately I love the GS as a sports car and sports cars rarely make good daily drives. I hated my 993 too when it was used for six months in that role too. Horses for courses.

 

[Ewan]

I swapped my Strad for a GS, as I wanted something more sporty and with more compliant suspension. So, a word of warning. If you have a GS and crave a Strad, you might want to double check!

 

[Mr.Cambio]

Totally agree Matt, and have been saying the same since I bought mine 10 years ago... its the one thing that ruins the experience until you get to a smooth European road.

I think it's the 19" wheels, not the suspension itself. When i drive on a smooth and curvy road, i wish the suspension was even stiffer.

 

[Karl GS]

I’ve not watched his vid yet but will. He messaged me a few weeks back to say he was selling it on.

The one thing I will say about a GS (and yes I have owned 2 and loved them) it the suspension is just too crashy for modern, potholed roads.

I wished he had stuck with it and made some improvements. I fitted KW coilovers to mine and the difference is amazing. Its handles potholes like a modern sports car and the ride is no longer "crashy". I know its not a cheap upgrade but it is has made the car so much more enjoyable and relaxing to drive. The bonus is being able to leave the car in sports mode all the time now.

 

[conaero]

I wished he had stuck with it and made some improvements. I fitted KW coilovers to mine and the difference is amazing. Its handles potholes like a modern sports car and the ride is no longer "crashy". I know its not a cheap upgrade but it is has made the car so much more enjoyable and relaxing to drive. The bonus is being able to leave the car in sports mode all the time now.

Well this if it does what you say is definitely the way to go.

 

[conaero]

I swapped my Strad for a GS, as I wanted something more sporty and with more compliant suspension. So, a word of warning. If you have a GS and crave a Strad, you might want to double check!

Each to their own, why I love my Strad is for the more complient suspension but as I said above I had two GS and loved them like my own children.

 

[Ewan]

The Strad is a great sense-of-occasion car and brilliant for cross Continental journeys. But for narrow and bumpy Dorset lanes, it’s a bit too big and heavy, so the GS is better suited to my location. Indeed one third of my daily commute is on single lane tracks, so the more narrow the car, the better. Indeed, I’ve swapped my GS for a narrow bodied 911 and that’s even more fit for purpose.
But there’s no doubt that on wide and flat roads, the Strad is awesome.

 

[Delmonte]

I wished he had stuck with it and made some improvements. I fitted KW coilovers to mine and the difference is amazing. Its handles potholes like a modern sports car and the ride is no longer "crashy". I know its not a cheap upgrade but it is has made the car so much more enjoyable and relaxing to drive. The bonus is being able to leave the car in sports mode all the time now.

So if you fit coilovers don't you lose skyhook? And sport button then only has an input on gear change, and leaves suspension alone, is that right?