Joining the electric car club

[keith]

Ten months into owning an EV, and no issues. Just did a 260 mile round trip, with a predicted range of another 50 miles. What continues to amaze is the almost Rolls Royce levels of refinement.

 

[dickygrace]

I suspect the prices will really start to sink heading into Oct/Nov time this year, particularly for the model 3.

I'm sure I read that ~60% of Tycans had HV battery issues replaced under warranty (many without the owners knowing) due to issues with the BMS overcharging cells (800kw charging?)

What makes a tycan turbo s a "turbo"?

Yes this is correct was speaking to a chap yesterday who works on them. So much for saving the planet.

 

[gb-gta]

Yes this is correct was speaking to a chap yesterday who works on them. So much for saving the planet.

That’ll be fun out of warranty….

 

[dem maser]

If you want Rolls Royce levels of refinement buy a 730d

 

[dickygrace]

That’ll be fun out of warranty….

They warrant them long term, 8 years; so not a concern for now for your wallet. But as a greenie eco warrior you’d clearly be absolutely devastated for the impact on the planet of having to have a new battery set prior to it having run its expected lifespan. They need to run for around 12 years to offset the CO2 output from manufacturing in comparison to an ICE vehicle (roughly, before a green washer shoots me down, there’s many variables), probably more like 15 years with another new battery pack. I think most will be dead/recycled/landfill by then.

 

[gb-gta]

They warrant them long term, 8 years; so not a concern for now for your wallet. But as a greenie eco warrior you’d clearly be absolutely devastated for the impact on the planet of having to have a new battery set prior to it having run its expected lifespan. They need to run for around 12 years to offset the CO2 output from manufacturing in comparison to an ICE vehicle (roughly, before a green washer shoots me down, there’s many variables), probably more like 15 years with another new battery pack. I think most will be dead/recycled/landfill by then.

Is the 8 years for battery, with the usual 3 for all other stuff?
I guess to retain that 8 years warranty you’d have to use official Porsche centres for all maintenance work. Not so good for the independents, not that many would have the kit to maintain/interrogate battery tech stuff anyway I suppose.

 

[urquattrogus]

Had a go on the new Hyundai Ioniq 6 last week as my parents are looking to get an electric car.

I was impressed with the looks, ride and handling although it did have a tiny boot, so they are going to try the Ioniq 5 this coming week.

 

[Wack61]

Tesla drivers aren't going to be happy ,Elon has just struck a deal with ford opening up the supercharger network in the US

Clever businessman , bland car badly built , stupid fast to draw attention to the fast charge network which then becomes a major asset

 

[dickygrace]

Ouch, and the market speaks the truth:

29 of top 30 biggest used car price drops in last six months are electric vehicles – Car Dealer Magazine

A worrying 29 of the top 30 biggest depreciating used cars in the last six months are electric – with some losing nearly 40 per cent of their value. The

cardealermagazine.co.uk

 

[Felonious Crud]

I love electric vehicles – and was an early adopter. But increasingly I feel duped | Rowan Atkinson

Sadly, keeping your old petrol car may be better than buying an EV, says actor Rowan Atkinson

www.theguardian.com

 

[Church of Noise]

Picked up this EQE (300, because company car) last Wednesday.
Very impressed so far, excellent ride quality, enough push for a daily, lots of toys.
And of all the cars I was looking it, this should have also the best range (not unimportant as the FiL lives quite a bit away).

In front of it is the BMW X4 temp car I got after the Jag F-Pace decided to lunch its own engine in Switzerland.

(yet SWMBO managed to curb a wheel this morning )

 

[rockits]

Ouch, and the market speaks the truth:

29 of top 30 biggest used car price drops in last six months are electric vehicles – Car Dealer Magazine

A worrying 29 of the top 30 biggest depreciating used cars in the last six months are electric – with some losing nearly 40 per cent of their value. The

cardealermagazine.co.uk

I'm not sure why the article says it is worrying. It is a good thing that most/all EVs have dropped IMHO as they were far too expensive and needed to be lower.

Really enjoying the I-Pace and have been really impressed with it so far.

 

[dickygrace]

I'm not sure why the article says it is worrying. It is a good thing that most/all EVs have dropped IMHO as they were far too expensive and needed to be lower.

Really enjoying the I-Pace and have been really impressed with it so far.

It’s worrying as it’s a car dealer magazine and they’re looking at the point of view of holding rapidly depreciating stock.

 

[rockits]

It’s worrying as it’s a car dealer magazine and they’re looking at the point of view of holding rapidly depreciating stock.

That is their mistake and many large dealers/groups are losing their shirts but that has always happened regardless of EV or ICE. Typical modern media dramatising stuff for clicks I guess. Most modern news is boring, lies, BS or misinformed these days. Often intentionally but I don't really pay too much attention to much of it.

 

[midlifecrisis]

If you want Rolls Royce levels of refinement buy a ... Rolls Royce

 

[zagatoes30]

Rowan Atkinson talking common sense, that's a bit of a shock but he does make some valid points. We all know that the true cost to the environment of electric cars is bigger than most would have you believe, the battery materials, location of manufacturing plants and relatively short lifespan will be much more of a green impact than what comes out of the exhaust but his point about the culture of changing a car every 3 years is much more relevant.

Regardless of the type of vehicle, if we kept them longer we would build fewer, would reduce the depreciation (supply & demand) and would have a much more positive impact on the planet. Now I am no bearded banner waving green but I have only bought 1 car new (however I did have a number of company cars back in the 90s and had a couple of new motor ability cars for my son before we moved to Ireland). Most of my cars I buy are 5-10 years old and then I keep them for another 5 years or so. Mostly they don't cost me anymore to run than a much newer car, unless you have a maintenance lease deal, I service them yearly and fix or replace what goes wrong.

There are alternatives and no one solution is going to work for everyone but most people just seem to follow like sheep and must have a new replacement every 3 years, it's not just cars phones, computers, in fact most electrical goods, clothes, furniture the list goes on and on - As Madonna said "'Cause we are living in a material world" and that is a big part of the problem that needs to be faced

 

[mjheathcote]

Most new car owners may only keep them 3 years, can't see the difference if keeping them 5 years, as whether 3 or 5 whatever, they don't die then at that point, they get passed down the ownership until they become uneconomical to repair.
So what's getting scrapped at the bottom is simply being replaced as new at the top?

 

[sionie1]

Link to the Rowen article here:

I love electric vehicles – and was an early adopter. But increasingly I feel duped — The Guardian

Sadly, keeping your old petrol car may be better than buying an EV, says actor Rowan Atkinson

apple.news

 

[Alan Surrey]

There are alternatives and no one solution is going to work for everyone but most people just seem to follow like sheep and must have a new replacement every 3 years, it's not just cars phones, computers, in fact most electrical goods, clothes, furniture the list goes on and on - As Madonna said "'Cause we are living in a material world" and that is a big part of the problem that needs to be faced

I keep all my stuff for donkey's years. Especially cars when I get a good one.
Does that make me an eco warrior?
If it does, I'm guessing there are plenty more of us here

 

[DLax69]

I keep all my stuff for donkey's years. Especially cars when I get a good one.
Does that make me an eco warrior?
If it does, I'm guessing there are plenty more of us here

Same...my last two Yukon XLs/Suburbans had in excess of 200,000 miles when I scrapped them (300,000 miles on one), and the Sierra will absolutely be in the same boat. The Stelvio was bought with the idea that it would be eldest stepdaughter's car when she heads off to college, so it will be in the family for at least a dozen years. And of course nurturing two twenty-year old Masers...