Laser detectors???

[allandwf]

You could always try doing 30

 

[Doohickey]

You could always try doing 30

My thoughts as well! I never sped in 30 zones but having been on a Speed Awareness (for 81 in a 70), it really brings home how much less likely you are to kill a child at 30 than 35 or 40.

 

[CatmanV2]

My thoughts as well! I never sped in 30 zones but having been on a Speed Awareness (for 81 in a 70), it really brings home how much less likely you are to kill a child at 30 than 35 or 40.

Have to agree

C

 

[cheshiremaserati]

Laser Elite Laser Jammer

The latest edition of the Laser Elite is the most compact laser jammer developed in the UK to date. Designed with a brand new compact laser head for a higher level of discrete installation, it's able to be mounted so it's virtually invisible. This latest, upgraded unit is effective against ALL...

www.radar-detectors.co.uk

The best product around. Switch 8t off when it beeps a laser hit to slow down and give a second reading to the gun. One guy I used to know had one in his GT3 RS. He never got caught anywhere, but it went off many times he claimed.

 

[lifes2short]

Laser Elite Laser Jammer

The latest edition of the Laser Elite is the most compact laser jammer developed in the UK to date. Designed with a brand new compact laser head for a higher level of discrete installation, it's able to be mounted so it's virtually invisible. This latest, upgraded unit is effective against ALL...

www.radar-detectors.co.uk

The best product around. Switch 8t off when it beeps a laser hit to slow down and give a second reading to the gun. One guy I used to know had one in his GT3 RS. He never got caught anywhere, but it went off many times he claimed.

on a serious note you would be skating on very thin ice with these jammers, if you get caught with one even just fitted to the car you will be in very deep voodoo with the cops and most likely criminal record and points at the very least and possibly jail if it can be proven that you had without a doubt jammed their traps on various occasions, not worth the risk imo

 

[cheshiremaserati]

I was not advocating fitment. The choice exists and depends on a person's attitude to risk. It is the best kit around. "Detectors" by the moment they go off, the vehicle speed has been clocked by the police. They do get instances where speed fails to register on a first hit in cars with no jammer.

 

[lifes2short]

I was not advocating fitment. The choice exists and depends on a person's attitude to risk.

well as long as there is a well documented RAMS in place then i'm happy

 

[MarkMas]

I think laser detectors are very much legal to fit and use in the UK, but super illegal to even posess in other places. A mate of mine was fined €500 in France because soem cops saw the mounting on his dash and found the detector in his glove box.

Laser jammers / disrupters are a different matter. Someone I know had 9 points (from 3 relatively minor incidents) and had a jammer / disrupter installed for a few hundred quid, about 10 years ago. He said it definitely saved his bacon a couple of times, including one where he said that he saw the revenue generation agent peer at his speed gun and give it a shake before trying again, by which time he had both slowed down and switched it off. Apparently you need to have an off switch that is accessible in a hurry, but not noticeable to anyone else.

He said at the time that he was very confident that it was not illegal to have one in the UK, as there had been cases about 'interfering with police radio signals' that were lost by the state. He said that there had been a couple of convictions for 'perverting the course of justice' (as reported), but this only happened when someone is really taking the cockwomble (my new all-purpose 'bad' word).

But now there seems to be a particular North Yorkshire project for PC Andy Forth:
https://www.roadsafetysupport.co.uk...owCbirgGO_Xfo-Sc4_ma1--gpF3fQG5xk2AT3UEuEpisM
https://northyorkshire.police.uk/news/laser-jammer-driver-found-guilty-perverting-course-justice/
https://www.roadsafetysupport.co.uk...after-driver-jailed-using-laser-jammer-device
https://northyorkshire.police.uk/ne...ed-sentence-for-perverting-course-of-justice/
https://northyorkshire.police.uk/ne...-to-use-laser-jammer-to-dodge-speeding-fines/

I'm quite surprised at those convictions, I would have thought that a good brief could get that thrown out - a burglar is not prosecuted for perverting the course of justice for wearing a mask. But then I'm not a lawyer. I wonder if some of these are on appeal. If caught, these are supposed to be the go-to people: https://www.nickfreemansolicitors.co.uk/

 

[midlifecrisis]

Jammers are definitley illegal just on the OFCOM front for transmitting on licensed frequencies. Detectors are not as they as passive (recieve only)
The walkie talkies we use are also illegal and the transmitted power is over 0.5W and we 'should' pay a license fee as they are 5W. The frequncy is fine but power not but however coppers have you seen with calibrated power meters or even know this concept!

 

[Wanderer]

My thoughts as well! I never sped in 30 zones but having been on a Speed Awareness (for 81 in a 70), it really brings home how much less likely you are to kill a child at 30 than 35 or 40.

That's true but of course you could argue that if the child ran out in front of you at 30, at 35 you'd have already passed her. Not advocating running over children but you can't legislate for anyone running in front of you at any speed.

 

[CatmanV2]

That's true but of course you could argue that if the child ran out in front of you at 30, at 35 you'd have already passed her. Not advocating running over children but you can't legislate for anyone running in front of you at any speed.

No but you can significantly reduce the odds of killing, or seriously injuring them if you do hit them

C

 

[keith]

After getting a ticket on the A1, where the speed limit dropped from 50 to 40 and I didn't realize, I have for the last 15 years used almost exclusively a Road Angel. I currently have their ''Pure' model which has an ultra clear display visible in even bright sunshine, and as well as showing the correct speed limit, it also shows your actual speed (albeit with a second or so delay) which is useful when cruising on a motorway, in fact you begin to use that display as a back up speedometer. Whilst the unit can give all sorts of audible warnings including spoken word, these can be disabled to different degrees in the set up menu. It warns of all camera types including traffic light cameras and bus lanes, and updates continually over the air. Meaning that if another user or yourself spots a camera can you can send or receive alerts of 'live' camera van locations. Last year they introduced variable motorway speed updates, which costs a little extra annually in terms of subscription, but this is of 'variable' benefit as the displayed limit doesn't always correspond with the speed limit on the gantry, the device also has Lazer detection, but as 'jasst' pointed out, if it goes off it will usually mean it's too late!
The unit has a built in rechargeable battery which will give you 3 1/2 to 4 hours running, and as I don't like wires running across the dash, or mounts stuck on the windscreen or dash, I have it mounted to a compact auxillary phone battery power pack which the unit can plugin too doubling the running time, and it stays put on the dash top courtesy of a non slip mat. All this means when the car is parked everything fits in the door bin or central cubby box, and it can be up and running in ten seconds.
The subscription £100 pa or about £250 if you go for a three year subscription, and the device is about £300.
I understand they recently introduced a plus model which I think has dash cam functionality, although I'm guessing it will need to be permanently wired.
All I would say, I think it's absolutely vital, as there have been plenty of times when in an unfamiliar area it has saved my license, and I have not had a ticket since.

 

[mjheathcote]

My dashcam (thinkware 770) will warn me of speed cameras and speed limits, the speed limit warning is most useful as it’s easy to get caught out sometimes and make honest mistake.

Likewise with my Garmin 55 dashcam.

 

[mjheathcote]

Jammers are definitley illegal just on the OFCOM front for transmitting on licensed frequencies. Detectors are not as they as passive (recieve only)
The walkie talkies we use are also illegal and the transmitted power is over 0.5W and we 'should' pay a license fee as they are 5W. The frequncy is fine but power not but however coppers have you seen with calibrated power meters or even know this concept!

Not quite correct regarding Walkie talkies if you are referring to the Mitex General radios, which Maplin used to sell, and was a forum group buy.
They are preset to the Simple UK Business frequencies, so 5w okay but you need a £75 licence valid for 5 years, even if they transmit only 0.5W.
Actually the forum could buy a license and all members using the radios on the Simple UK frequently would be covered to use them as a group.
The only licence free radios (apart from CB) are the Pmr446 that transmit to a different set of frequencies to the Mitex General/Simple UK Business frequencies, and are limited to a max of 0.5W.
I'll get my coat...

 

[midlifecrisis]

Not quite correct regarding Walkie talkies if you are referring to the Mitex General radios, which Maplin used to sell, and was a forum group buy.
They are preset to the Simple UK Business frequencies, so 5w okay but you need a £75 licence valid for 5 years, even if they transmit only 0.5W.
Actually the forum could buy a license and all members using the radios on the Simple UK frequently would be covered to use them as a group.
The only licence free radios (apart from CB) are the Pmr446 that transmit to a different set of frequencies to the Mitex General/Simple UK Business frequencies, and are limited to a max of 0.5W.
I'll get my coat...

Which is what I said but in less words.