Lpg

[stradaman]

My old Audi S6, was converted to run on LPG. Was paying 46p a litre! Great car, and engines actually run better on LPG, as its cleaner. Plugs, etc, lasts much longer. Only reason i sold it, was because, when I moved to Spain, there is very little LPG stations around.
So, has anyone converted a Maser, to LPG? Audi cost just over 2k to convert, using the best system. So similar, for Maser

Andy

 

[Felonious Crud]

Hi Andy,

Interesting idea. How much space did the gas-tank take up in the back? Also, did you have any bother taking your car on the Eurotunnel or ferries? I've heard they won't accept after-market conversions for "safety" reasons. [sigh].

Cheers,
Adam

 

[stradaman]

This is the stupidity of it. Lpg is safer, then petrol. The tanks are 5 times stronger, then any Petrol tank. Think Racing tank strength! There is a safety cut off valve, so they never leak, unlike a petrol tank. LPG goes through a 12 monthly inspection. When does a petrol system get checked?
You can take LPG on a Ferry, but as yet, not Tunnel. Its barmy!!

Andy.

 

[mjheathcote]

Well this is a photo my uncle txt me a few months ago.
He heard an explosion at 2am outside his apartment in France, the car next to his exploded, burning both cars (his a hire car fortunately) to the ground.
Cause of the explosion? LPG tank.
Can you imagine that half way under the channel?

 

[Paulm]

Mike,
Just imagine waking up to your RED Hot Maser !!!!
Preposerous !!!!
Haven't even thought about converting and I don't think I ever will.
Only my veiw

 

[stradaman]

Hang on, that is France. And remember again, its a gas, as opposed to a liquid. Not one LPG car has ever exploded, or caught fire. Petrol cars? And the last tunnel fire? petrol/diesel, accelerated the fire bomb within the tunnel, as the tanks ruptured. LPG has been tested, way beyond temps, that petrol would explode.
Last, on a car LPG system, there is no escape gases, so no flame, period. I know, which system i would have, under extreme conditions!! You can pierce a petrol tank, with a sharp large nail. Try it on a LPG tank. Never!!

To answer a previous question. The LPG tank takes up the room of the spare wheel, or custom built to fit inside boot.

Andy.

 

[mac]

I think I'd be less worried about an explosion and more concerned about the longevity of the engine tbh.
I'd rather not be the first to convert a super car, does anyone know if a Masser, Lambo, Ferrari etc has ever been converted?

did your Audi conversion come with the oil feeder system Andy?

mac

 

[safrane]

Well this is a photo my uncle txt me a few months ago.
He heard an explosion at 2am outside his apartment in France, the car next to his exploded, burning both cars (his a hire car fortunately) to the ground.
Cause of the explosion? LPG tank.
Can you imagine that half way under the channel?

Looks like Paris on most evening where on average over 30 cars are torched in the rough subs

 

[TridentTested]

Well this is a photo my uncle txt me a few months ago.
He heard an explosion at 2am outside his apartment in France, the car next to his

Just for balance I can report what happened in our building. One of my neighbours reversed his new Volvo PETROL into the wall beside his parking space. It made a small knock on the bumper, splitting the paintwork. He locked the car and went upstairs, muttering obscenities to himself, to call his insurance company. They asked him for some paperwork which was still in the car so he returned to the car park only to find his Volvo had burst into flames.

It took seven fire engines to extinguish.

 

[mjheathcote]

Hang on, that is France. And remember again, its a gas, as opposed to a liquid. Not one LPG car has ever exploded, or caught fire. Petrol cars? And the last tunnel fire? petrol/diesel, accelerated the fire bomb within the tunnel, as the tanks ruptured. LPG has been tested, way beyond temps, that petrol would explode.
Last, on a car LPG system, there is no escape gases, so no flame, period. I know, which system i would have, under extreme conditions!! You can pierce a petrol tank, with a sharp large nail. Try it on a LPG tank. Never!!

To answer a previous question. The LPG tank takes up the room of the spare wheel, or custom built to fit inside boot.

Andy.

What difference does it make being in France? Lower standards than the UK?
I dont know what started the initial car fire, but the LPG tank in the car exploded, period!

 

[dem maser]

Not sure if id ever do it.....not to a maserati anyway

 

[stradaman]

Only certain engines, need Oill spray fitted. Range Rover, is one. The Audi, has good, top end lube, to start.
Engines, run on LPG, on strip down, are found to wear less, due to LPG being, a clean fuel. At my MOT, the inspector, could not believe, the readings, from the exhaust!! Lowest, he had ever seen!!
Exhaust also last longer too. Petrol produces a pint of water, for every gallon used. Reason why your exhaust drips in the winter!

And in France, the standard is not as good as ours. Only way, that blew up, was because it was faulty. In UK, it is very well policed, and autherised fitters, have to go through stringent training, and checks, before they are licenced. Knowing France, it would of been prob already 2nd hand, layed around for ages, kicked about, abused etc, then a guy with cig in his mouth, bunged it in a car.!!
Last, and the best bit. In some parts of Europe, it is 20p a litre!! There is a european paper, being studied, to make this the standard price, throughout Europe. Imagine how long, it would take you, to get back the costs of fitting? Then having running costs, less then a Golf Diesel!!
Most Of Spains Taxis and Buses, run on LPG, but as yet, only a few Repsol garages, have it. This will change, if this new bill comes out !!

Andy.

 

[adam01]

Do it Andy, & start saving. Will follow shortly thereafter

 

[TridentTested]

And in France, the standard is not as good as ours. Only way, that blew up, was because it was faulty. In UK,

Ironically I have a mate who brought his LPG converted Shogun over to France, registered it, had it inspected. No problem the first year but when his Contrôle Technique (MoT) came up for renewal they failed it because he didn't have a French installation certificate.

He looked into getting one but concluded the French installers would stitch him up so he had no choice but to export the car and put its UK plates back on it and sell it in the UK.

 

[AerosGS]

Only certain engines, need Oill spray fitted. Range Rover, is one. The Audi, has good, top end lube, to start.
Engines, run on LPG, on strip down, are found to wear less, due to LPG being, a clean fuel. At my MOT, the inspector, could not believe, the readings, from the exhaust!! Lowest, he had ever seen!!
Exhaust also last longer too. Petrol produces a pint of water, for every gallon used. Reason why your exhaust drips in the winter!

Andy.

The water is a product of combustion. LPG produces MORE water as there are more hydrogens per carbon (shorter carbon chain)

Cheers

 

[stradaman]

LPG only just produces more water, but the C02, is over 20% less then petrol!! So basicaaly, the LPG exhaust, is clean, whereas the petrol has water, full of dirty carbons, that stick to the exhaust.
Just try looking at a car running in LPG. The exhaust pipe is spotless!! Cannot say that on a petrol engine. The **** that comes out of an old exhaust, when replaced is not good for the enviroment.
I do know a Ferrari, running on LPG. No issues so far!!

Andy.

 

[Mick]

Hi Andy, quite interested in converting one of our cars to LPG, not the Maserati at this stage though as I don't use it as a daily drive.

Where did you get the LPG conversion done? Was it in UK? Is there much variation as to the make and model of the system?

We have a petrol X5 which the wife uses for schol runs etc, so LPG would be perfect.

 

[stradaman]

Hi Mick.
Had mine done by Worsley Autogas, in Manchester.
My system is a BRC, which is like the Rolls Royce of the many systems out there.
http://installers.brcgb.co.uk/installers/worsley-autogas-centre/
If you use an authorised Autogas installer, you will be fine. X5's are brilliant on LPG. Carl, who did mine, also does talks about LPG. He is the best. I was fortunate, to live nearby, at the time.

Andy.

 

[Mick]

Hi Mick.
Had mine done by Worsley Autogas, in Manchester.
My system is a BRC, which is like the Rolls Royce of the many systems out there.
http://installers.brcgb.co.uk/installers/worsley-autogas-centre/
If you use an authorised Autogas installer, you will be fine. X5's are brilliant on LPG. Carl, who did mine, also does talks about LPG. He is the best. I was fortunate, to live nearby, at the time.

Andy.

Thanks for that, will look into it, 'cos we've been talking about putting LPG in the X5 for a awhile, just never got round to it.

 

[lozcb]

My old Audi S6, was converted to run on LPG. Was paying 46p a litre! Great car, and engines actually run better on LPG, as its cleaner. Plugs, etc, lasts much longer. Only reason i sold it, was because, when I moved to Spain, there is very little LPG stations around.
So, has anyone converted a Maser, to LPG? Audi cost just over 2k to convert, using the best system. So similar, for Maser

Andy

Hi Andy , i discussed converting to LPG 6 years ago when i first got mine by a reputable installer just outside MK , general consensud was that it would absolutely negate the use of the boot, the boots aren't the biggest on the coupes and an the tank installed in the boot wouldn,t hold that much fuel/gas to warrant the loss of the boot , cost was around the £1600 mark as i recall , mind you 6 years ago petrol was a around a third cheaper than what it is now so food for thought


regards loz