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Solidarity, my brother!!!The government won't get the better of me Den, I'm staying an Arsenal fan till the day I'm the wrong side of the grass.
Solidarity, my brother!!!The government won't get the better of me Den, I'm staying an Arsenal fan till the day I'm the wrong side of the grass.
And Bill Gates and Klaus Schwab and the other various globalist entities are the good guys right .............arent they the very people who are trying to steer our governments , I dont doubt for one minute there are those whose integrity and dedication to preserve humanity are well intentioned but it feels increasingly that there are those that have pure financial gain at the root of there cause , Im no rocket scientist or epidemiologist just an ordinary bloke who has seen the result of pure incompetence ,,,,,,,,,,,,,i see no good reason why its wrong to call a spade a spade .....this whole episode saga has looked like a duck, walked like a duck and quacked like a duck .....therefore in my book its an efffffing duckThis thread is so depressing for the future of humanity.
Humans have been battling a series of dangerous diseases for centuries, first relying on prayer and voodoo, and later benefiting from incredible scientific advances, that comprehensively beat nasty pathogens like polio and smallpox. Along comes another nasty pathogen that quite clearly causes severe and sometimes lethal respiratory and circulatory problems for some people. It looks like it might be quite similar to the 1918 pandemic, which we know killed about 15-150 million people. The scientific data showing the dangers is clear, backed up by credible TV pictures of bodies piling up outside Chinese and Italian mortuaries.
Public health authorities try to limit its spread, just as they did in 1918 and with local polio outbreaks in the 1950s. Meanwhile reputable research scientists deploy their 200 years’ worth of vaccine expertise to come up with a variety of excellent vaccines, using methods developed over the past 20 years and benefiting from unlimited short-term funding. They also are able to rapidly carry out a testing programme involving hundreds of thousands of people, as everyone is incentivised to get the testing rolled out. While there is clear evidence of a significant peak in the overall death rate, which is clearly attributable to the pandemic (although there are also other factors), there is good evidence that the public health measures and the vaccine have saved humans from a worse outcome.
Meanwhile someone knows a bloke who died only one day before his 3rd vaccine, and somebody else's granny tested positive and didn't die. And someone thought he had heard that the guy who invented mRNA, Robert O Young, (actually they are probably thinking of Robert Malone) had looked at the vaccine under a microscope and found something or other. Several people, who know nothing at all about vaccine development, feel that it was a bit rushed. Someone else watched a YouTube video in which a real doctor said he didn’t trust the government. And then somebody read a medical report that was so thorough that it had a very long list of things that anxious people had reported as possibly associated with the vaccine, such as “Acute Hemorrhagic Edema of Infancy”, which is actually a very rare and almost entirely benign skin condition, only affecting infants (who have not had Covid vaccines) with spontaneous recovery occurring within 1-3 weeks. And someone else took some hydroxychloroquine and is still alive, so they are really glad they didn’t get the vaccine, as that has chemicals in it.
And loads of people are sure that the government, which they also know can barely keep the lights on, or fix potholes, or cover up a bribery scandal, is engaged in a vast conspiracy to control us all.
We are doomed
I've done my "research!" | The Dunning-Kruger effect
The incompetent are often blessed with an inappropriate confidence, buoyed by something that feels to them like knowledge: the Dunning-Kruger effect.ascienceenthusiast.com
I don't think the government all got together and came up with a grand plan of "how do we control them muhahaha"And loads of people are sure that the government, which they also know can barely keep the lights on, or fix potholes, or cover up a bribery scandal, is engaged in a vast conspiracy to control us all.
We are doomed
I've done my "research!" | The Dunning-Kruger effect
The incompetent are often blessed with an inappropriate confidence, buoyed by something that feels to them like knowledge: the Dunning-Kruger effect.ascienceenthusiast.com
Reason I brought this up is basically because im miffed in so many ways ............... largely because ive just had to shell out in excess of five figures for knee implant for my good lady . and whilst i dont for one minute begrudge her the private op ............its annoying the waiting list we were quoted was 18 months-2 years ...........being in the elderly bracket now 2 years is a rather large chunk of what time we may have left , so it was a no brainer ...........so my mind has been searching for someone/something to blame for the state we are in ......after all I was brought up in a system that gave me no choice to pay my dues to the tax and National insurance system so as a good citizen i have paid my dues for 40 odd years and so has my working wife , the time when we need it, the system has failed us ..............probably like so many others out there ....im sure im not alone in this and most likely there are more serious tales of woes other could quote .I'm happy to still be here. First jag wiped me out, pulse 144, rashes, lack of breath, wee niggly pains, then next two nothing. Cought COVID twice, sore throat and lack of smell that was it, don't know what it would be like if I hadn't had the vaccinations, frankly don't really care as it's in the past. I'll just get on with every day as it comes and hopefully have many more.
This thread is so depressing for the future of humanity……Along comes another nasty pathogen that quite clearly causes severe and sometimes lethal respiratory and circulatory problems for some people.
I don't think the government all got together and came up with a grand plan of "how do we control them muhahaha"
I think it's more of an opportunist thing where it naturally evolves that way.
A bit like how in the 1940s the government weren't saying "how do we get more women in to the workplace", it naturally happened because the women took over while the men were at war, then when they got back it continued that way.
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Thats exactly why we have threads for other topics , you dont have to read it Peter ............plenty of others to read , its called choice , I take it your in full control of your mouseI feel stupid for reading this thread - just the same old twaddle being repeated as the last COVID/BREXIT/Immigration/Oil types threads as the last time that finally descended into madness.
Can we stick to car stuff, and have these 'debates' on Mums Net or similar forums where you can meet like minded people who have lost of fee time to reinforce their own opinions?
Thankfully we have court hearings like this so we may be getting somewhere:
Thats exactly why we have threads for other topics , you dont have to read it Peter ............plenty of others to read , its called choice , I take it your in full control of your mouse
You can apply that same logic Mark to the government so called scientific rhetoric spouted out in times of the covid outbreak ..............thats exactly why its necessary to hear both sides of the story ............present and post pandemic in order to equate and evaluateBut this is the point. If people peddle twaddle and are just ignored, then in the modern world of social media the twaddle gains credibility.
It used to be that the village idiot could say what he liked because (a) only his neighbours heard him, and (b) everyone in the village knew he was an idiot. Now he has global reach, supported by all the other idiots and the algorithms. So it is not acceptable to just click away. This nonsense has to be countered or we end up at Idiocracy.
No Mark your wrong ......this is your point ...................not everyonesBut this is the point. If people peddle twaddle and are just ignored, then in the modern world of social media the twaddle gains credibility.
It used to be that the village idiot could say what he liked because (a) only his neighbours heard him, and (b) everyone in the village knew he was an idiot. Now he has global reach, supported by all the other idiots and the algorithms. So it is not acceptable to just click away. This nonsense has to be countered or we end up at Idiocracy.
Actually it’s very serious- for us all as if this is allowed to continue there will be even less trust in anything we are ever told again.Not a court hearing, but US congressional political posturing and argument by anecdote.
hole episode saga has looked like a duck, walked like a duck and quacked like a duck .....therefore in my book its an efffffing duck
Yep, close this thread...the idiots are running amock.