dickygrace
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If you’re after a manual, from my experience the Cayman is the one to buy, and I’m a fully self-confessed Maserati nerd.
Soon to be (I hope!) a 4200 owner!
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RussBird82
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In a strange way I quite like this design oversight on the earlier models.
Andy4200
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Obviously I'm biased, owning a manual, but since I've refurbished the gearbox end linkage with new bushes and bearings (along with recent gearchange cables and oil change) the change is light and slick.
A decent Cayman is a fair bit more to purchase and they do have a 'slightly' fragile engine. Lovely cars though
A decent Cayman is a fair bit more to purchase and they do have a 'slightly' fragile engine. Lovely cars though
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Millvox_Nyx
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Andy that is stunning! I'm a bigger fan of the black/grey interior than I'd expected (I regularly take flak from friends on how much I adore "old man beige" Vs resale black) and the black paint really does suit the car. Let's chat a bit more about it - I'm not sure how forum rules go in terms of sharing contact info, so if someone could give me a steer (ha!) I'd appreciate it before I stick my foot firmly in my mouth.
Dicky - the sensible part of my brain says that a good manual Cayman is almost definitely the better choice overall, but the other, far more persuasive part is replaying the exhaust note of the 4200 over and over to drown it out. I've always been a contrarian at heart, really.
Russ - I'm with you on weird idiosyncrasies being a plus more often than not! The fact that my XE S's infotainment is utterly hopeless and none of the apps designed for it less than 10 years ago work AT ALL anymore I find funny and character building more than annoying. No cupholder reduces the chances of me getting brave with a coffee and spilling it everywhere anyway
Dicky - the sensible part of my brain says that a good manual Cayman is almost definitely the better choice overall, but the other, far more persuasive part is replaying the exhaust note of the 4200 over and over to drown it out. I've always been a contrarian at heart, really.
Russ - I'm with you on weird idiosyncrasies being a plus more often than not! The fact that my XE S's infotainment is utterly hopeless and none of the apps designed for it less than 10 years ago work AT ALL anymore I find funny and character building more than annoying. No cupholder reduces the chances of me getting brave with a coffee and spilling it everywhere anyway
Church of Noise
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Sounds like you're already lost to the trident Jamie, so it's more a matter of when instead of if.
As others have pointed out, the market is small, and a good car with a reasonable price is not as easily found as one might expect (all the more reason to have a serious look at Andy's car).
As others have pointed out, the market is small, and a good car with a reasonable price is not as easily found as one might expect (all the more reason to have a serious look at Andy's car).
Millvox_Nyx
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"When not if" certainly feels apt right now - been a good while since I've been drawn in so much by a particular model; I feel similarly when I see a particularly well specced late XKR, but seeing as those are anywhere from 25-30k, the 4200 really appeals in its stead.
Andy4200
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Hi Jamie,
Glad you like it, I think it looks pretty good too. I'm not sure the best way to communicate privately without putting an email address here for the world to see!
I don't know how long or how many posts you need before you can PM.
The forum owner @conaero may be able to shed light on it?
Glad you like it, I think it looks pretty good too. I'm not sure the best way to communicate privately without putting an email address here for the world to see!
I don't know how long or how many posts you need before you can PM.
The forum owner @conaero may be able to shed light on it?
zagatoes30
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I thought it was only 5 but I may be wrong, best wait for god to impart his wisdom
RussBird82
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I was asked today by my brother/sister in law what I want for Christmas..."a cup holder" was my answer. One of those hooked to the passenger seat items that cost £100 odd.
RussBird82
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Not looking to buy (although it looks like a great car for the price), just curious what the gears are like when cold? I really have to limp mine around the block on a cold morning until it's up to temp. I have just had an old change which was like sludge, even though it was seemingly done only 3yrs ago so not sure if that has improved it much. Out of interest how big a job was the cables, bearings and bushes? Mine is at 82k miles
Andy4200
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From cold 2nd is a little notchy but it only takes 5 mins of running and it's fine. If it's a hot summers day then I don't think there was any notchiness (is that a word?)
The cables were changed before I bought the car so, unfortunately, can't tell you.
Rebuilding the gearbox end linkage was fairly straight forward. There should be a short thread on here. I'll see if I can find it.
Try this:
The cables were changed before I bought the car so, unfortunately, can't tell you.
Rebuilding the gearbox end linkage was fairly straight forward. There should be a short thread on here. I'll see if I can find it.
Try this:
Wack61
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Before you decide educate yourself on the running costs should things go bad , these cars like being used , they don't like being woken up from weeks of not being used .
Brakes, wishbones ,clutches , tyres ,rusty subframes, the wrong car can quickly empty your bank account .
Brakes, wishbones ,clutches , tyres ,rusty subframes, the wrong car can quickly empty your bank account .
Nibby
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The Maserati 3 pedal cars get a mention in this article.
www.hagerty.com
These three-pedal bruisers are a dying breed - Hagerty Media
Manual grand-tourers with V-8 engines are destined for collector status. Which ones remain bargains in a frothy post-Covid market?
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Say what you like, I still dont drag mine out over the winter months. It's a bit the case of 'damned if you do, damned if you dont...." Running the motor only to get it sweaty doesnt appeal much either...
If only I had heated garaging...!
edit- I might warn you against the bigger 19" wheels too...(crash bash smash bump ! )
If only I had heated garaging...!
edit- I might warn you against the bigger 19" wheels too...(crash bash smash bump ! )
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mjheathcote
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Neither do I, not had any storage problems over a dozen years of ownership.
However my garage is under the house, totally dry, and rarely drops into single single figures in the coldest winter day. Insulated sectional garage doors, and thick ecotile PVC floor tiles helps this immensely.
mjheathcote
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The salt destroys them though, they aren't built in mind for a wet damp salty winter!
williamsmix
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Yes, I ran my 3200 last winter and will do so this year. I've taken the trouble to give the underside a bit of DIY help with a wire brush, and a 3 layer protection of kurust, stonechip and waxoyl where needed. I think it also depends where you live; we don't usually get much salt thrown about on the Isle of Wight as the Gulf Stream helps to keep us a few degrees warmer. Trips to the Mainland are another issue though, but nothing to stop you getting the jet washer on the underside if necessary. Also, worth taking a look at your garage / storage. Damp and unventilated buildings will not do the car any favours! A friend down the West Country has had some rust bubbling up paint on his Spyder for this very reason. If you have a damp and unventilated garage I reckon the car will probably do better outside, getting some heat through it when it's used, and with a breathable cover over it to keep the rain off it. These cars were engineered to withstand a bit of weather; at least my 3200 doesn't let rain in the boot like a QP! When I was looking around to buy a 3200 I was pleasantly surprised by the rust free condition of almost everything I saw.
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