Steering Rack

LORENZ-GS

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Hi guys,. I have just developed a leak in my steering rack below the nut u see in the pic. I would think there is a seal behind there of some sort. Is there a seal i can buy or rebuid kit for these racks. I would like to think there an easy fix for this and i dont need a whole new steering rack. Thanks
 

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conaero

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I would have thought you will struggle do just get the seal, your best bet is to remove the rack and have it reconditioned....having all the seals replace, but I can see your logic by trying to replace it in situ.

Chances are you will have to remove the rack and dismantle it to get the seal our anyway.

Let us know if you are successful.

If you have a look at the outer ring of your photo, you will see the toothed area, this is so it can be tightened/nudged with a hammer and blade screwdriver. If might be worth backing off the nut and tightening maybe, but I would leave this to the experts really as if you over tighten it, it could cause strain on the pump or even lock up?

Here is the parts drawing, does not appear to be the seal:

NOTE: Parts 35-38 are boots and pipe kits.

http://www.eurospares.co.uk/partTable.asp?M=3&Mo=494&A=1&B=28040&S=

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hodroyd

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That looks like a different rack to the drawing Matt, the only thing next to the 2 mounting bolts is the bottom of the steering shaft to the steering wheel, which does not look like the picture? The pump looks to be mounted well away from the rack. Unless the photograph is the reverse side of the drawing?
Lorenz, what car is this mounted on and is the photo from the front of the car or rear??
Cheers
R
 
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conaero

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Indeed your right there Robert. I assumed that it was a 4200 but am now thinking that it is a QP/GT.

Lorenz, can you specify the model please.
 

LORENZ-GS

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its mounted on a 2006 coupe.manual shift car. The pic is taken from the rear. Another words that nut u see is facing towards the rear of the car. The drawing looks rite to me. You just cant see the nut im referring to cuz its facing the other way. Heres another pic
 

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hodroyd

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OK, so that explains it, it's the bottom of the steering shaft. If the two black marks one on the castleated section and one on the casing are supposed to be aligned, then it's either been over tightened at some point, or it's loosened which is highly unlikely. Has it been attended to in the past for a leak Lorenz? Are you sure the leak is coming from the nut and not from the fluid supply pipes in the side of the steering box?? It might be a good idea to ask Eurospares if they have a gasket kit for the 4200 steering rack and see what the response is??
 

hodroyd

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Lorenz,
Just got the other pic through, really weird, the black mark has now moved compared to the first pic??
Cheers
R
 

LORENZ-GS

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ok ill explain about the black marks. The first pic is a result of me checking it and finding out it was alittle loose so very carefully i tightened it about one third of a turn, thus u see the factory black marks not lined up. I then took it for a ride and the steering was off alittle so i went back home and turned it back to have the marks line back up, back to the factory setting. sorry for that confusion. Anyway the car has 3,400 miles on it and has been untouched till now. So im basically where i started out. Its defenitely leaking from below that nut area where the threads are.
 
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hodroyd

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Only 3,400 miles, can you not get a warranty check on it at a dealer? Oh sorry it's 2006. I would imagine that when you tightened the nut the steering possibly felt a little tighter? Sorry I don't know enough about the racks to know if you can get a new gasket for it. As it is not made by Maserati and they buy them in, I would think you could get a gasket kit somewhere.
 

BennyD

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Ask Myles at Emblem if you can completely unscrew the nut and take the plate out without disturbing anything. If so, count the turns as you unscrew it, wrap the threads in PTFE tape and screw in the same number of turns until the black marks line up. What could possibly go wrong?!
 

LORENZ-GS

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Im hoping theres an easy fix here. Look up above where CONAERO says that the outer ring that has grooves in it can be turned to tighten up. If the outer grooved ring is seperate from the nut then its very possible that this can be an easy fix. Im thinking that one adjusts the steering and the other may be for keeping the seal tight. I appreciate everyones input. I just need alittle more info. Hopefully someone has had this apart
 

hodroyd

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Lorenz, let's see if anyone comes on the forum tonight that might know, if not we might just ask one of our independents for advice, if they know??
 

LORENZ-GS

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What do u think guys? I think my thoughts of the outer ring being seperate from the nut is wrong so i have a feeling im sending this out. Any thoughts? Or is there anyone u guys can ask over there? Thanks
 

hodroyd

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Lorenz,
I am picking my car up from the Indie I use, in the morning I think, I will try and remember to ask his opinion for you.
Cheers
R
 

Parisien

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Rob....show Marios/Russell the thread on his comp...a pic is worth 678998989 words.....:)


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hodroyd

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Frank,
That's a good idea, I'll try that and see if they have some thought on the subject.
Cheers
R
 

hodroyd

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Hi Lorenz,

Ok I have seen my Indie today and this is what he advised. There is not much in the way of pressure in there, so to seal any little leak, loosen off a little bit, squeeze in, or push in some silicon sealant and then tighten back up to the factory marks and that should be fine. Make sure you count the revolutions of turn when slacking off, so that you can tighten the same. You could use PTFE if you can get it in, but silicone should do it. Hope it works Lorenz..!!!

Cheers
R