Swap Coupe GT fo Gransport
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Ewan
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Really? The manual 4200 GT is quicker than a GS? I did not know that. Every day is a school day.
rockits
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There is no way an average human can change gear faster than a CC in a 4200 or GS IMHO.
I can understand how some older slushbox auto's are slower than a manual but the box is the same just who is operating it.
On low throttle position the human wins but that narrows then is surpassed by the CC the faster you go. Unless you are well practiced or a well trained professional driver the faster you go a human can't keep up.
There is no better or worse box just personal preference. I always found both manuals I drove not the best experiences of a manual shift I'd ever had.
I can understand how some older slushbox auto's are slower than a manual but the box is the same just who is operating it.
On low throttle position the human wins but that narrows then is surpassed by the CC the faster you go. Unless you are well practiced or a well trained professional driver the faster you go a human can't keep up.
There is no better or worse box just personal preference. I always found both manuals I drove not the best experiences of a manual shift I'd ever had.
cheshiremaserati
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Thank you for putting a perspective on the scare-mongering
Fair play.....
I do know Porsche mucked about with the dimensions on the bearing in more than one iteration of their first water cooled unit. Id always believed the early cars (1999) were generally ok. Then they increased its diameter but reduced it's width to accomodate other changes of the motor internals. It doesnt stop there as I recall either, making it pretty involved if you want to try and insulate yourself from the suspect motors by production number and date......
Personally, Id look for the issue having been addressed if only bècause the unloved ugly duckling 996 seems now to be commanding ever higher values. A decent, driveable performance air cooled car is stratospheric price wise. A 996 is the only option left for many who have been well & truly priced out....Even then, if you replace like4like, Id not be impressed. Not when there is an expensive oil fed after market option available. And not when the prices continue to climb....
Also, many conflate IMS with RMS. A leaky rear main seal is a nuisance but that's all. Change it when you replace the clutch. An IMS will go without warning and there's fu5k4ll you can do but expect a total engine rebuild/replacement nightmare. Which is probably why people dont entirely trust that sh1t....
Id mention PPI about now but dont want to risk bringing the bogey man down on my head....
Ah..Ive just got it- Gransport kit. Its obvious now I see it...lol
You could try Eurospares..They'll likely have a lower bumper and rear bootlid spoiler...It'll be a case of tracking down the parts.
I dont get it - the surf boards look utter pants !
mjheathcote
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Obsolutely.
My old S1 Elise was a joy to drive as a package, but even after new cables, bushes etc and set up by a Lotus specialist, it want the best manual shift, even at self centering at times.
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I do think it depends on your mood and the purpose of your drive. I hugely enjoy interacting with the engine/gearbox in the manual 360, sure it can be hard work at times, but ultimately very satisfying on that perfect run.
But there are occasions where I would prefer to be in the GT with it’s MC shift, it’s half the effort for the same’ish pace. In addition to that you need to be really on it in the 360 and wring it’s neck whereas the GT just sounds great at any rpm & speed.
But there are occasions where I would prefer to be in the GT with it’s MC shift, it’s half the effort for the same’ish pace. In addition to that you need to be really on it in the 360 and wring it’s neck whereas the GT just sounds great at any rpm & speed.
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I'd agree with that and it makes total sense. A kind of flawed or compromised design from the outset. The old little Peugeot GTI's are great fun and.simple. I guess most front engined front gearbox cars are solid rods/links. Anything cable surely won't be as good.
I'm sure there will be exceptions where engineers have got it to work well. A great manual gearbox is a thing of joy.....a bad one is often a frustration.
For what it's worth I don't think either are anywhere close to perfection. Both have their positives and negatives like most things. You pays your money and takes your choice.
I guess it depends what you want and your driving or journey's. Not being able to get a car in gear easily is fine if you have to move the lever a certain way which is learning its character or design.
Many TVR's need you to select 5th first before going to reverse or it will crunch. I'm fine with that type of thing. When in any manual car and the f*cker just doesn't want to go in then I don't find that a great deal of fun.
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You wanna try my little 1.7 Puma Phil, brilliant, unfortunately they made the wheel arches with metal about as thick as a *** paper.