The beginning

[Lozzer]

Now you lot here are a knowledgeable bunch (that's a compliment btw), I've been having a chinwag with my local Padre, where we contemplated life, God and all the rest of it, i said fine with the God aspect but then I asked where did God come from? Then we got onto the universe, if the universe evolved, say from a speck of dust, where did that speck of dust come from? Answers on a postcard please because I think I've just blown my own mind.
And this should be in the other topics thread! Sorry! "Mind Blown.."..

 

[Saigon]

Now you lot here are a knowledgeable bunch (that's a compliment btw), I've been having a chinwag with my local Padre, where we contemplated life, God and all the rest of it, i said fine with the God aspect but then I asked where did God come from? Then we got onto the universe, if the universe evolved, say from a speck of dust, where did that speck of dust come from? Answers on a postcard please because I think I've just blown my own mind.
And this should be in the other topics thread! Sorry! "Mind Blown.."..

Send it over to the good morning thread.

 

[TimR]

Mate- you need to check out Prof Brian Cox’ latest series- Universe.

Feckin’ brill’......

 

[Nayf]

I’d believe in god but people say I’m too self absorbed already.

 

[Lozzer]

Mate- you need to check out Prof Brian Cox’ latest series- Universe.

Feckin’ brill’......

I like Mr Cox, did a great job of explaining why Dr who couldn't time travel, then did a great explanation of how he could!!

 

[zagatoes30]

Mr Cox has a great way of explaining complex ideas in an easy digestible way but on twitter he is scathing of the god brigade.

Personally I'm firmly in the science camp, what we didn't know before we might know in the future but I do have this nagging doubt that no matter how far back it can be tracked something started from nothing but how is that possible

 

[conaero]

We are born, we drive Maserati’s, we die, everything else is just over analysis.

Take the car out and don’t worry about tomorrow

 

[Felonious Crud]

Take the car out and don’t worry about tomorrow

My advice is to worry about tomorrow tomorrow.

 

[allandwf]

Who really cares. Make the most of what you have as if it may be your last day, it might!

 

[FIFTY]

Now you lot here are a knowledgeable bunch (that's a compliment btw), I've been having a chinwag with my local Padre, where we contemplated life, God and all the rest of it, i said fine with the God aspect but then I asked where did God come from? Then we got onto the universe, if the universe evolved, say from a speck of dust, where did that speck of dust come from? Answers on a postcard please because I think I've just blown my own mind.
And this should be in the other topics thread! Sorry! "Mind Blown.."..

I suggest you read up on Aristotle's "unmoved mover"

 

[MrPea]

Love it, Lozzer!

I also recommend the most recent Brian Cox series, which goes before the Big Bang, and still raises the same question of where could that energy come from?

Also, Prof Jalili on Prime has a two part series on quantum mechanics that'll blow your mind.

Now then, I'm a scientist and love this stuff! I'm also, and equally, a devout Christian.

I find that the two things are more than just complimentary, but each makes me find the other even more marvellous.

I could, and would more than happily chew the cud on this type of thing with anyone! It makes me more excited than cars.

 

[Tallman]

The good thing, or the bad thing, is that we don’t know and it’s not very likely that we ever will know as it’s metaphysical. We can wonder of course and argue, but what’s the point. And the answer is 42 but we already knew that.

 

[CatmanV2]

My advice is to worry about tomorrow tomorrow.

'Sufficient unto the day are the troubles thereof'

Believe, or not, there are nuggets of gold in some religions

C

 

[Tallman]

There is also the mathematical version of existence.

-1+1=0 i.e something plus something equals nothing, but interestingly enough for this particular question, 0=-1+1 i.e nothing is something plus something.

In quantum physics the same goes of course, with matter and antimatter which can annihilate each other, so you would have to presume the reverse must hold as well.

 

[midlifecrisis]

Drop some acid and it'll all become lucid.

 

[MarkMas]

I find it particularly infuriating when religious types argue that there must be a god because "You can't have the universe just always there, or just come from nothing", but when you say, "OK, but where did god come from, then?" They say "Ah, yes, but god was always there." Such a false argument. I'm not saying you can't have religious beliefs, just that this is a horribly illogical argument for the necessity for the existence of a god.

 

[Vampyrebat]

The good thing, or the bad thing, is that we don’t know and it’s not very likely that we ever will know as it’s metaphysical. We can wonder of course and argue, but what’s the point. And the answer is 42 but we already knew that.

Aaaah yes.............But what is the question??!!

 

[Mr Spoon]

Wonder what car god drives? Masersti is it? If so why make them rust. Screw you God.

 

[Vampyrebat]

Wonder what car god drives?

Heaven Knows...

 

[CatmanV2]

just that this is a horribly illogical argument for the necessity for the existence of a god

In my (reasonably extensive) experience of Christians, I don't think I've ever heard that specific chain of logic.

Mostly they just use the example of the Babel fish

C