Brake Pads

BRR

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Sorry to go over something that seems to have been discussed a million times but the more i search into it the more confused i seem to get.

I'm planning on getting the forum Disks (thanks again MAF) fitted when the car is in for a service in a few weeks and want to change the pads at the same time, I've found mintex part numbers MDB1752 fronts & MDB1456 rears but when i search on brakes international for these it returns BPS numbers which i believe are Ferodo, are these the same or should i be looking for the actual Mintex ones? also would it be worth upgrading to EBC yellow/red?

I presume I'll need new wear sensors too as per http://www.eurospares.co.uk/parts/m...rsa/all/front-hubs-abs-brakes-41507/383300215 would this be one sensor per axle?

Anything else I've missed?

Many Thanks
 

MAF260

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Speak to the guys at Brakes International, they're very helpful. The Mintex pads are very good for road use, but too soft for track use IME. You should replace the wear sensor with new front pads as it wears with them. Only one needed on the front passenger side, available from Eurospares.
 

BRR

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Speak to the guys at Brakes International, they're very helpful. The Mintex pads are very good for road use, but too soft for track use IME. You should replace the wear sensor with new front pads as it wears with them. Only one needed on the front passenger side, available from Eurospares.

I spoke to brakes international and the guy wasn't helpful atall, asked me to give him the specific part numbers i required or the exact measurements for the pads, think I'll go with the Mintex ones for now as i don't intend to track the car for the forseeable future

Thanks for the help everyone
 

maser_4200

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I spoke to brakes international and the guy wasn't helpful atall, asked me to give him the specific part numbers i required or the exact measurements for the pads, think I'll go with the Mintex ones for now as i don't intend to track the car for the forseeable future

Thanks for the help everyone

My experience is that the were not a correct fit. Ended up buying Maserati parts and replacing after ~1000 miles... YMMV
 

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the pads are every so slightly bigger and may need a little filing to get them into the calipers. Certainly this was true for the rears.
 

BRR

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My experience is that the were not a correct fit. Ended up buying Maserati parts and replacing after ~1000 miles... YMMV

wish i had seen this before i ordered them, are the Maserati ones the only ones that are the exact correct fitment?
 

MAF260

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wish i had seen this before i ordered them, are the Maserati ones the only ones that are the exact correct fitment?

No. There is no reason to spend the ridiculous amount Maserati want for brake pads. From everyone who fitted Mintex pads last year, nobody has reported a fitting issue. I can only assume there is a problem with a particular batch. The coupes share brake calipers with various other makes and models of car as they're made by Brembo. Somebody will have a list of these cars, so arguably you could buy the BMW/whatever version and they would fit and be fit for purpose. If you buy from Maserati you're paying a huge premium for the label on the box, nothing more, the pads are made by Brembo. There are plenty of alternatives at much more sensible prices - I've now moved to yellow stuff. not just because of the colour!
 

MAF260

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the pads are every so slightly bigger and may need a little filing to get them into the calipers. Certainly this was true for the rears.

I didn't find this issue with either car I fitted them to. Usually the stainless guides are gummed up with accumulated muck and need a very thorough clean out. I did this with both cars and the pads went in fine - the tolerances are tight, so cleaning them up will make a difference.
 

ANY

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No. There is no reason to spend the ridiculous amount Maserati want for brake pads. From everyone who fitted Mintex pads last year, nobody has reported a fitting issue.
There are plenty of alternatives at much more sensible prices - I've now moved to yellow stuff. not just because of the colour!

Another option is to do what I did and spend a semi-ridiculous amount of money on yellow Pagid pads. They cost less than the originals if bought from an independent shop/store. I paid about £250 for front and about the same for the rear ones. There are allot cheaper options available, but these are just incomparable to the originals, they are improving and changing the breaking experience completely.
I assume they are best suitable if you are interested in track days or sporty driving, were you find the originals rather weak and unprecise. Even offered as a Maserati upgrade on eurospres I've seen.
They make a discrete, rather sporty than annoying squeak sometimes when braking slowly on the streets and the wheels get a bit more dusty. But that looks just cool to me : )

I've fitted them to my track day Porsche as well. Did you know that the rear brake pads are the same as eg Porsche 944S2?
 

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Speak to the guys at Brakes International, they're very helpful. The Mintex pads are very good for road use, but too soft for track use IME. You should replace the wear sensor with new front pads as it wears with them. Only one needed on the front passenger side, available from Eurospares.

This.

I run Mintex all round with the forum discs and the cold bite it astounding.

For road use they are brilliant.

MAFs experience of the track seems correct as the pads are soft, sacrificial and don't wear the discs.

If your not going to abuse the car get the Mintex and like me, get a pair of front Yellowstuff for when you are.
 
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maser_4200

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wish i had seen this before i ordered them, are the Maserati ones the only ones that are the exact correct fitment?

This was just my experience - looks like n=1 on this, so you should be OK :)

I had rears rattling in the calipers after ~1000 miles, and no way to connect wear sensors to the front, so moved to originals. This was primarily to sort a noise fully - which it didn't fully (see other thread). Prefer the Maserati pads, but not the 10x cost! Prefer the feel of the genuine pads.

I'm OK with pattern parts (e.g., rear shoes as they are such rubbish parts), but try to use genuine where possible.
 

BRR

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Just a quick update on this, fitted the forum disks and the Mintex pads, front pads needed a bit of filing but nothing major. obviously I'm still wearing in the disks & pads but am impressed so far :)
 

Felonious Crud

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On a GTS the YellowStuff pads are streets ahead of the standard Maserati pads. I'm running FD disks as well. There's no wear sensor on the YellowStuff pads for the GTS but luckily it's possible to just look at the pads and you'll see quite clearly if they need replacing or not. My wear sensor wire is wire-tied up out of the way. I haven't yet formed an opinion on whether there's more or less brake dust, but if you use a decent wheel protection such as Swissvax Autobahn the whole cleaning process is much easier anyway.
 

GeoffCapes

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Having had a near miss with MAF yesterday, I think I'll change my pads to Yellow Stuff.

Is it worth doing front and rear or just the fronts?
 

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Just a quick update on this, fitted the forum disks and the Mintex pads, front pads needed a bit of filing but nothing major. obviously I'm still wearing in the disks & pads but am impressed so far :)

Yep all 3 sets I've done have been the same too. Not sure how MAF got his in without a little fettling.