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[D-Bling]

Does anyone have both the FD DBW and the FD ECU that is going to dyno? I am curious to know what differences you gain?

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[lozcb]

Does anyone have both the FD DBW and the FD ECU that is going to dyno? I am curious to know what differences you gain?

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We have had 3/4 members that have had the FD ecu piggy back chip Derek , but i dont think there are any that are having the DMS re-map , a couple have recently been sold off used and gone out i believe to Australia and another is waiting to be fitted , not sure what the state of play is , what we do know is that those that had the whole FD package including springs etc etc were impressed with the handling side of things and the gear change speeds , but no noticable gains in power



regards loz

 

[Roger]

Received, thanks

 

[Torenno Performance]

Does anyone have both the FD DBW and the FD ECU that is going to dyno? I am curious to know what differences you gain?

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Not many guys in the UK with the FD ECU, but there has been a few, myself included. Everyone i know have felt a significant difference in the power.

Plenty of guys in the US with them.

Have a look at some reviews.

http://www.maseratilife.com/forums/modern-maserati/4624-so-i-finally-got.html
http://www.*********************/tm.asp?m=32294&forumid=33
http://www.maseratilife.com/forums/57522-post16.html
http://www.maseratilife.com/forums/59318-post16.html
http://www.maseratilife.com/forums/59445-post5.html
http://www.maseratilife.com/forums/coupe-spyder-gs/3719-76-miles-ready-fd.html
http://www.maseratilife.com/forums/modern-maserati/4198-interesting-sunday-drive.html
http://www.maseratilife.com/forums/26250-post11.html

Thanks

Noor

 

[Torenno Performance]

I believe the added bonus part of all this, is the DBW enhancement...identical to FDs...minus the fitting of an actual physical module and all done at the ECU.....


http://www.formuladynamics.com/products/4200_dbwem/4200_dbwem.php


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Only just got to reading this thread after a while away from the forum.

Frank, Id clarify that with DMS, im fairly sure that DMS will not able to replicate the effect of the DBW enhancement. Its a pretty unique product, which works in a completely different way to a remap.

A Remap will change certain parameters in the ECU, to gain horsepower and improve throttle response. However to be able replicate the effect of the DBW, the remap will need to reduce the clutch slip on initial start and make each gearchange quicker amongs other things, which im sure is not the case

Thanks

Noor

 

[Emtee]

I've got this impression too Benny, but it's the lack of feedback from Maserati owners that concerns me with the clutch remap, which is where the DBW wins as it's well proven. Plus it's switchable. Haven't made my mind up either way yet?...............

 

[Parisien]

Hi Noor, yes will doubly check that issue, thanks,

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[Emtee]

To be honest Miles, my main priority is the extra power but if a fringe benefit/ bonus is a more aggressive gear change then i'll take it and thanks. It will be interesting to find out if it negates the need for another box with yet more electrical connections!

I suspect it will Benny, and it is a bit of a no-brainer really. I'm only pondering as I have a DBW in a box ready to fit. My current thinking is to go ahead and fit the DBW and have DMS map everything 'around' it. That way I get the comfort of knowing that the DBW has proven itself to be dependable without damage, and the benefit of the DMS remap to improve the horses and torques. I won't be raising the redline. That just seems like an accident waiting to happen (particularly in a car that's done 70K+ miles), and how often do you hit the redline anyway?... not often if your keeping an eye on things.....

Em.

 

[SpyderNick]

Hi,
I think that the reality is that the remap does give enhanced throttle response but the clutch slip on take off is controlled by a separate ECU.
So I notice the extra surge at take off but there is still the slight hesitation on very initial movement, this is somewhat negated by the quicker throttle response but not entirely done away with. When pushing on it definitely feels as if the the changes are quicker which may be to do with the throttle response or the increased HP i don't know.
I don't have a FD DBW unit and have never driven a car with one so i cant say what the difference is, however i believe that the FD DBW unit has more to do with initial take off and clutch control.
I need to drive a FD DBW car to decide, but i think that it would still be an enhancement on the DMS remap, the 2 units are most likely complementary to each other.
Hope this helps.

 

[dickygrace]

Does anyone have both the FD DBW and the FD ECU that is going to dyno? I am curious to know what differences you gain?

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I bought my car with the FD DBW and FD ECU but the ECU needed a re-flash. I was advised by an expert who I trust that it would make little or no difference to my car therefore I sold it and just have the Throttle one on now. I am interested in the DMS upgrade but bhp per£ needs to be well worth it.

 

[MAF260]

I'm watching this with interest. I really hope to see a load of dyno runs for each of the cars with a before and after BHP & Torque figure. It will be interesting to see how each car compares from the standard cars to the modified ones.

 

[BennyD]

Nick, now you have had time to get used to the extra performance and improved drivability do you still think it is worth the outlay?

 

[SpyderNick]

I do yes, and I paid £1200 for it and still happy. I think that it has changed the character of my car.
I will say that i do think that i would still like the FD DBW but its not nearly as important to me now with the remap and its not cheap with installation. I think that the FD sway bars would be a better use of money now for my 52 plate Spyder as it can feel a little wobbly especially now with the extra power !!

 

[D-Bling]

I do yes, and I paid £1200 for it and still happy. I think that it has changed the character of my car.
I will say that i do think that i would still like the FD DBW but its not nearly as important to me now with the remap and its not cheap with installation. I think that the FD sway bars would be a better use of money now for my 52 plate Spyder as it can feel a little wobbly especially now with the extra power !!

Nick have you had your car dyno'd independent of DMS? I am curious to know if the outcome would be the same. As I understand dyno's are very easy to manipulate and it is a fairly common practice to exaggerate gains. Certainly not saying DMS is doing this but with the increase in HP they are reporting it would be nice to independently verify. It's the scientist in me.

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[Bazza]

Anybody herd from DMS yet? now 2 day's since E-mail sent and not had anything back yet. I thought there should have been some acknowledgment from them by now.

 

[BennyD]

Nick have you had your car dyno'd independent of DMS? I am curious to know if the outcome would be the same. As I understand dyno's are very easy to manipulate and it is a fairly common practice to exaggerate gains. Certainly not saying DMS is doing this but with the increase in HP they are reporting it would be nice to independently verify. It's the scientist in me.

D, as you get a before and after dyno read-out I would suggest that they are above board. Coupled with the fact that Nick can clearly tell that the performance is far better it all kind of adds up. I'm willing to believe!

 

[Parisien]

Anybody herd from DMS yet? now 2 day's since E-mail sent and not had anything back yet. I thought there should have been some acknowledgment from them by now.

Not heard back either.......early days....


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[Parisien]

D, as you get a before and after dyno read-out I would suggest that they are above board. Coupled with the fact that Nick can clearly tell that the performance is far better it all kind of adds up. I'm willing to believe!

I have no doubt a firm in business for 15 yrs and with very high end clients and a reputation to protect would be ultra reliable and have full faith in their products and claims.


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[lozcb]

Just had an Email from Rob , alls well , apparently been at the geneva Motor show fir tha last two days and got back late last night , he's on the case guys and will start the feed back and booking in etc soon as


Said he came across this whilst he was there , thought we might be interested







Regards loz

 

[Parisien]

Good stuff.....hes made contact back!


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