Great trip coming up

[BJL]

Cut off the E50 at le verve onto Chalons on the N44 then via St Dizier, Chaumont and Vesoul. Seems to take no time at all then up with the lark and into cowbellland.

 

[TridentTested]

Cut off the E50 at le verve onto Chalons on the N44 then via St Dizier, Chaumont and Vesoul. Seems to take no time at all then up with the lark and into cowbellland.

Interesting route. I've done Reims>Troyes>Dijon>Bourg-en-Bresse>Geneva so often I can do it in my sleep. It's usually traffic-free and I don't begrudge the €29.70 in tolls - it pales into insignificance against Maserati tank-fulls of petrol - because the road is so good and it's so easy to cover ground quickly on it. But I must give your route a try some time.

Last year I went around the lake at Geneva and turned north at Nyon going over the Jura picking up the A39 later; lovely roads and completely devoid of traffic.

 

[BJL]

Interesting route. I've done Reims>Troyes>Dijon>Bourg-en-Bresse>Geneva so often I can do it in my sleep. It's usually traffic-free and I don't begrudge the €29.70 in tolls - it pales into insignificance against Maserati tank-fulls of petrol - because the road is so good and it's so easy to cover ground quickly on it. But I must give your route a try some time.

Last year I went around the lake at Geneva and turned north at Nyon going over the Jura picking up the A39 later; lovely roads and completely devoid of traffic.

I used to do that route quite a lot as well but the last time I came back from Viarregio it cost me 12 euros in tolls in Italy and 135 euros in tolls in france including the mont blanc tunnel. I must be getting tight in my old age as it pi55ed me off a bit so I thought I would try a route I had never done before and it turned out quite refreshing. I do agree with you that your route is very light on traffic, shame about the lasers being set at 138 kph.

 

[Parisien]

135 euros...strewth...would have been cheaper almost to have stuck her on that auto train from Alessandria to Holland.....


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[Max Swell]

3 weeks tomorrow off to Spa in the Spyder for the Spa Classic staying in Brugges en route....not as glamorous as italy but I bet you wont need your brolly as I will!!!

 

[Andyk]

3 weeks tomorrow off to Spa in the Spyder for the Spa Classic staying in Brugges en route....not as glamorous as italy but I bet you wont need your brolly as I will!!!

Still a great trip to a great circuit though....

 

[Chrisbassett]

Spa sounds great, every bit as glam as Italy for a car fan, and with rain to add to the atmosphere! Jealous of that trip, Max, I must say.

 

[fcz360]

BJL: Sounds like a great trip - enjoy

thanks for the CD, great pics thanks

 

[BJL]

135 euros...strewth...would have been cheaper almost to have stuck her on that auto train from Alessandria to Holland.....


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Thought about that, do you know anyone who has done it?

 

[BJL]

BJL: Sounds like a great trip - enjoy

thanks for the CD, great pics thanks

My pleasure

 

[BJL]

3 weeks tomorrow off to Spa in the Spyder for the Spa Classic staying in Brugges en route....not as glamorous as italy but I bet you wont need your brolly as I will!!!

Love Brugges, went up the tower last month just to relive the film. What a great filmthat is. Enjoy Spa. Give me Monza and Spa and you can keep the rest.

 

[TridentTested]

including the mont blanc tunnel.

The tunnel is a shocker. €40 one way these days. I spend a lot of time in Chamonix and my friends there buy carnets of ten where it works out at €13 a go. A bit cheaper but it still annoys me every time.

Why can't it be like the Laerdal Tunnel <link> in Norway? Longer, FREE, no cameras, no queuing up to go in convoys, no cr4p just a simple tunnel. In fact it's always annoyed me that the Channel Tunnel isn't like the Laerdal too.

 

[BJL]

I think the French squeeze until the pips sweak and then some more. Going off them a bit which is a shame as I spend a lot of time there.

It's getting to the stage where I'll drive quite a bit further just not to pay the greedy buggers.

 

[Parisien]

Love Brugges, went up the tower last month just to relive the film. What a great filmthat is. Enjoy Spa. Give me Monza and Spa and you can keep the rest.

Belgium is very under rated........"In Bruges" was a truly epic film........my son and ten of his mates went there a few years ago to re-enact it........great time had by all!


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[CatmanV2]

Meh. Wasn't that impressed by the film. Had a bloody good lunch there though

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[Parisien]

I think the French squeeze until the pips sweak and then some more. Going off them a bit which is a shame as I spend a lot of time there.

It's getting to the stage where I'll drive quite a bit further just not to pay the greedy buggers.

Yeah...its not an entrepreneurs paradise....and certain things are getting pricey........but they still do lots of things very well...........but their stinking bureaucracy is wearing though and depression invoking.....


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[BJL]

Totally agree, can't see the current president lasting long especially now Cammi and Angie have gone off him. Things might improve then..............I hope.

 

[Parisien]

Not so sure......suspicion of the wealth and the right...deeply ingrained.......

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[Parisien]

Totally agree, can't see the current president lasting long especially now Cammi and Angie have gone off him. Things might improve then..............I hope.

...but we can forgive them lots, when their female politicians don't look like rejects from the Womens Institute.....


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[BJL]

Madame Guillotine not that long ago, mind you I have some friends there who thought a Tumbril was an east german car !!!!!!!