hello from a newbie!

[steve]

the 3200 auto drives through a torque converter so no worries there, the manual 3200 as always depends on how you drive but seen anywhere fro 10k-25k

there is not a 4200 auto, both the CC (flappy paddle) and manual have a clutch don't know which would last longer, the CC does have an auto mode but it is not very good apparently
cheers
steve

 

[conaero]

Alex, its all about the software running it, you can upgrade a 2002 car to the latest version as far as I am aware, and this is something that should be done at the main dealer during its service.

Basically, the mechanical systems are all the same.

There is also something called a KIS point, which is the gap adjustment for clutch engagement. this should be set between 4.7 and 5.3, the lower numbers meaning more vicious engagement.

 

[grainqey]

Thanks for the replies,
i'd have to check with a dealer to see if the CC car i was looking at had been updated - think it says about that in the buyers guide (which i'd probably take printed out when i went to look at one anyway)

Thanks
Alex

 

[steve]

bare in mind that in 2002 there was a hill hold feature on the cc box, you loose this with the upgrade,

 

[grainqey]

This might sound stupid but does the CC gearbox disengage the gear for you like a regular auto (and just try and trickle forward) or do you have to pull both paddles to stop it stalling each time you come to a stop?

thanks
Alex

 

[conaero]

The clutch just separated at under something like 1100 rpm, so you cant stall it...unless you have the handbrake on, and I doubt it as they are useless anyway.

 

[Gullible]

Even in Manual the car will not let you run in an inapropriate gear.I
If you stop completely it will shift automatically down to 1st , but i tend to pull away in 2nd mostly as the first to second transition can be a bit aggressive.
If you were say traveling at 20 and tried to go into 6th it would not permit it until an appropriate speed were realised.
If you were traveling at 90 and tried to go into 2nd it may not allow it either,It has a self protection mode.
I was told the opposite and the CC gearboxes outlasted the GT by a long shot if driven properly.
regards
Adam

 

[conaero]

Adam, I am talking about the manual/CC.

 

[Gullible]

THe automatic on the CC is useful for certain driving conditions.
I use the manual mostly and i am practicing smooth changes by letting off the clutch just a tad just a millesecond before asking for a gear.
I am not sure i have the throttle blip though as i have never experienced it,so perhaps the new firmware does away with this rather cool feature.
I have a sort of back waffle,pop,grumble sound when rolling in third or fourth(sounds like another car is behind you)
I have no idea what it is though


Matt so am i ...i think,the manual Cambiocorsa yes?

 

[grainqey]

thanks for the replies,
the clutch disengaging at under 1100rpm is good, aswell as the speed/gear protection much like a conventional auto.

thanks
alex

 

[lozcb]

The clutch life on the 42 manual must be better than the CC, the CC wears pretty bad, expect 12k miles and upwards for a CC clutch, the manual, if looked after, should do 3 times that.

There are people who get 30k miles from a CC clutch, but it is a rarity.

You trying to class me as an a rarity Matt just because im on 38K miles and counting , most think im common as muck , so i'll take that as a compliment , will differ slightly

Alex on the clucth issue , early 02 03 clutches were prone to a clutch life of worst 8k miles - 20K miles my own 4200 was changed at 18K improvements were made to the clutches and most were changed to double tang extending the life quite considerably from worst 15K to around the 30K mark if driven normally , manuals you could as a rule of thumb add on 30%

Oh Hi and welcome to the forum by the way Alex


regards loz

 

[conaero]

Rarity Loz, well yes, there is definitely only one of you!

 

[lozcb]

Rarity Loz, well yes, there is definitely only one of you!

havent you met my twin brother yet


regards loz

 

[Emtee]

Hi Alex and a belated welcome. With regards to clutch wear, I've had a problem getting a correct reading, as according to the SD2 it's at between 12 and 13 percent after 32K miles! This is obviously incorrect after that sort of mileage and must be at or around 100 percent, but the clutch actually still drives perfectly well, although I don't push it in first or second. Cheers, Miles.

 

[conaero]

I think you can through the wear figure out the window and do as loz does, drive it till it starts slipping or has engagement issues.

 

[Emtee]

Yep, just what I'm doing Matt. No point shelling out unnecessarily.