Question for BennyD

[CatmanV2]

It has been nearly three weeks!

Dave

Or alternatively one plane has been lost out of 10s (if not 100s) of thousands of flights.

*Personally* I'm happy with the safety record. I' at greater risk when my driver picks me up to take me to the terminal then when I board the plane. Where's the campaign for black boxes in mid market mercs?

C

 

[SimonCC]

If there is a short in the cabling, we have to have the ability to isolate it to try and prevent an airborne fire. We can turn off just about everything and this what might have happened. Smoke and fumes which the crew tried to isolate, were ultimately unsuccessful and the fire took hold. This may have forced the crew out of the flight deck and there (potentially) you have it; a turn towards a suitable airfield, electrics switched off, no mayday call and an aircraft that flew on auto pilot until that failed and the aircraft crashed into the sea at an unknown point of impact. It now transpires they were carrying lithium ion batteries (the cause of the 787 grounding) which cause fires which are virtually unextinguishable.

Benny the experts say there could be 100 different reasons why the plane has gone missing, but I haven't heard this mentioned, which is far more believable than some of the daft theories I have heard.

Why are the lithium ion batteries still vin use? Is there no improved option available at mom?

 

[Contigo]

Simon this plane was carrying the batteries in the hold as cargo! So a batch of faulty batteries one flares up and I think you can guess the rest... The 787 was actually using the batteries and not carrying them as cargo so a completely different issue....

 

[Wattie]

I'm not buying the fire theory. Surely smoke would have been spotted or smelt.....and that would've enabled some sort of radio message before things got out of hand and control was lost. Crew must surely have to radio in such a problem whilst or after dealing with it.

It's very very odd and I find it incredible that in today's day and age that a plane can simply vanish..........without trace...with all those systems, radar, phones etc

I'm beginning to wonder if it will ever turn up..........Seems 1 a year goes missing.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-20/mapping-every-vanished-plane-1948



CheersWattie

 

[Contigo]

Significant find by looks of it with Malaysian PM to call meeting with relatives. Families to be flown to Australia in next 24 hours.

 

[hodroyd]

They should wait until they are positive, this could present considerable further stress to those involved and it might turn out to be nothing to do with the aircraft they are looking for..!!

 

[Contigo]

We all know they wouldn't have called the meeting if that was the case. Flight arrived back in Perth over na hour ago and the captain went straight into a meeting. All points to wreckage retrieved and confirmed.

Malaysian airlines issued statement to relatives to "assume beyond reasonable doubt that Flight MH370 went down in the southern indian ocean"

All evidence suggests it did got down..

 

[hodroyd]

I'll go and check the news channel..!!

 

[Contigo]

PM on now, he has been briefed by the AAIB and Inmarsat that the satellite data pinpointed the plane on the southern corridor west of Perth where the debris has been spotted.

 

[hodroyd]

No debris found yet, but it appears this is a best guess area that the plane went down, probably out of fuel by that time..!! Strange why the data could not have been looked at closer to find this out a bit earlier..??

 

[Contigo]

No debris found yet, but it appears this is a best guess area that the plane went down, probably out of fuel by that time..!! Strange why the data could not have been looked at closer to find this out a bit earlier..??

Apparently it has taken them so long to correlate the data. The ping which the plane sent back was basically likened to a handshake/keepalive and they actually don't broadcast positions this is more of a latency/timing measurement interpretation to determine the exact location based on satellite position etc....

 

[hodroyd]

If this is the last resting place, it could be hundreds of miles away from the last engine ping dependant on timing, the plane if at full flight height at the last ping, could have flown further then glided for a while before it finally hit..!! It is going to take some lengthy searching to find anything, if they ever do at the depth of the ocean around that region..!!
Rest in Peace all those involved..!!

 

[Parisien]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26716572

All hope gone now


P

 

[Contigo]

So assuming they did find the BBR how do they know that that was actually functioning and capturing all the data if all ACARS and transponder have been killed or disabled?

 

[hodroyd]

I think the black box is totally independant and records what the plane was doing, so hopefully they will be able to tell such as if on auto pilot etc..!!

 

[hodroyd]

I think the black box is totally independant and records what the plane was doing, so hopefully they will be able to tell such as if on auto pilot etc..!!
The voice recorder would be handy to find too, at least they would know if the flight crew were still in their seats and talking..!!

 

[Contigo]

Amazed that Malaysian Airlines chose to tell relatives by Text!!!

 

[hodroyd]

Strange to say the least, I would not like to hear such a thing by text..!!

 

[dem maser]

Text? ****....cant receive news by text!

 

[safrane]

Given that this and so many other dreadful events are frequented by constant media briefings serving the 24/7 news programmes they would either hear it on the news or get a text all at the same time prior to it going live.
It's a fact of or constant news hungry society that if they had told one relative by the time they get to number 240 the rest of the world qould already consider it to be old news.