Range Rover advice

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Ref 72 2000 Range Rover HSE by Holland & Holland MRP

The Range Rover is a large luxury four-wheel drive sport utility vehicle launched in 1970 and is now in its fourth generation. In 1967, the first Range Rover prototype was built with the classic Range Rover shape clearly discernible although with a different front grille and headlight...

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Ref 59 2009 Range Rover L322 Holland & Holland 5.0 Supercharged MRP

Just as AMG is synonymous with the Mercedes-Benz performance division and Fords with RS Cosworth badges on the boot can always be relied upon to supply thrills on demand, Overfinch has been connected to Range Rover (and Land Rover) since the 1970's offering something a little more 'exuberant' to...

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That 2009 is a thing of wonder

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[Wack61]

silly money (guidance) considering how cheap regular RRs are becoming. I was told of a 35k mile 2019 4.4 SDV8 Vogue SE for just above 30k this week. That was 50k last year and over 80k when 2 years ago! If only you could tell the good ones from the bad!

They're all turbo blowing, crank snapping, gearbox blowing money sucking machines

I still want another one, like that woman is trouble but you can't stay away want one

There really is nothing like them

 

[drellis]

They're all turbo blowing, crank snapping, gearbox blowing money sucking machines















I still want another one, like that woman is trouble but you can't stay away want one















There really is nothing like them







Hi thought you'd got a 4.4v8 diesel not long ago?

 

[Wack61]

Ah yes, that car
That didnt go as well as I hoped

I bought it from a guy at the address it was registered to with the V5C

Car was transferred into my name, I had it transported to the garage where they repaired it and got a test on it which took about 10 days

I was driving it home down the M6 when a cop car shot past, braked and got in front of me

First thought in my head, have I insured this, yes I've insured it

Pulls me up, turns out the guy that sold it to me wasn't the legal owner, he owned the house not the car, that belonged to his tenant who'd gone into a care home

I've bought a lot of cars, some I've rejected after speaking to the owner on the phone, some when I'm stood in front of them

I got nothing from this guy at all, he 100% believed he had the right to sell that car, he owns a business in Keswick, rents multiple houses out, there's no way he's running a scam for a few grand, something has gone on after the deal between him and the tenant, it was 8 days after I bought it it was reported stolen

He got arrested, the police asked me to send all I had, lucky I'd got a receipt which had his address and signature on

I sent it all off, got a reply from the copper telling me they'd start the interpleader process then radio silence

No contact from them, can't get an answer on the phone either

Then somebody applied for a new V5C to transfer it into their name, I contacted DVLA who blocked it while they investigated then about 3 weeks ago another V5C application which I emailed to them, then 2 weeks later an acknowledgement slip telling me the vehicle had been transfered

I'd have thought a court would have to decide what happens to it

It's been over 4 months now so as I've heard sweet FA from the police it's looking like I'll have to take him to the small claims court to get my money back

It's not a fortune a few grand,

 

[philw696]

Ah yes, that car
That didnt go as well as I hoped

I bought it from a guy at the address it was registered to with the V5C

Car was transferred into my name, I had it transported to the garage where they repaired it and got a test on it which took about 10 days

I was driving it home down the M6 when a cop car shot past, braked and got in front of me

First thought in my head, have I insured this, yes I've insured it

Pulls me up, turns out the guy that sold it to me wasn't the legal owner, he owned the house not the car, that belonged to his tenant who'd gone into a care home

I've bought a lot of cars, some I've rejected after speaking to the owner on the phone, some when I'm stood in front of them

I got nothing from this guy at all, he 100% believed he had the right to sell that car, he owns a business in Keswick, rents multiple houses out, there's no way he's running a scam for a few grand, something has gone on after the deal between him and the tenant, it was 8 days after I bought it it was reported stolen

He got arrested, the police asked me to send all I had, lucky I'd got a receipt which had his address and signature on

I sent it all off, got a reply from the copper telling me they'd start the interpleader process then radio silence

No contact from them, can't get an answer on the phone either

Then somebody applied for a new V5C to transfer it into their name, I contacted DVLA who blocked it while they investigated then about 3 weeks ago another V5C application which I emailed to them, then 2 weeks later an acknowledgement slip telling me the vehicle had been transfered

I'd have thought a court would have to decide what happens to it

It's been over 4 months now so as I've heard sweet FA from the police it's looking like I'll have to take him to the small claims court to get my money back

It's not a fortune a few grand,

Sorry to be reading this Darren and fingers crossed you get it resolved.
I had issues with my pension getting caught up in a scam and had written it off got most of it back last year it took nearly 12 years so keep on it.

 

[lifes2short]

Ah yes, that car
That didnt go as well as I hoped

I bought it from a guy at the address it was registered to with the V5C

Car was transferred into my name, I had it transported to the garage where they repaired it and got a test on it which took about 10 days

I was driving it home down the M6 when a cop car shot past, braked and got in front of me

First thought in my head, have I insured this, yes I've insured it

Pulls me up, turns out the guy that sold it to me wasn't the legal owner, he owned the house not the car, that belonged to his tenant who'd gone into a care home

I've bought a lot of cars, some I've rejected after speaking to the owner on the phone, some when I'm stood in front of them

I got nothing from this guy at all, he 100% believed he had the right to sell that car, he owns a business in Keswick, rents multiple houses out, there's no way he's running a scam for a few grand, something has gone on after the deal between him and the tenant, it was 8 days after I bought it it was reported stolen

He got arrested, the police asked me to send all I had, lucky I'd got a receipt which had his address and signature on

I sent it all off, got a reply from the copper telling me they'd start the interpleader process then radio silence

No contact from them, can't get an answer on the phone either

Then somebody applied for a new V5C to transfer it into their name, I contacted DVLA who blocked it while they investigated then about 3 weeks ago another V5C application which I emailed to them, then 2 weeks later an acknowledgement slip telling me the vehicle had been transfered

I'd have thought a court would have to decide what happens to it

It's been over 4 months now so as I've heard sweet FA from the police it's looking like I'll have to take him to the small claims court to get my money back

It's not a fortune a few grand,

i find it amazing how easy it is these days to get a V5c transferred in another persons name by simply having the doc reference number, literally within 5/7 days a new V5c is with new owner or in your case a bogus owner.

 

[Wack61]

Sorry to be reading this Darren and fingers crossed you get it resolved.
I had issues with my pension getting caught up in a scam and had written it off got most of it back last year it took nearly 12 years so keep on it.

The guy has completely blanked me, won't respond to messages or phone calls, hopefully once he realises a CCJ will affect his business he might take notice.

The police and DVLA have been utterly useless, when I asked why the car was allowed to be re-registered when there was an ongoing investigation all she could say was the police may have sold it at auction

 

[Wack61]

i find it amazing how easy it is these days to get a V5c transferred in another persons name by simply having the doc reference number, literally within 5/7 days a new V5c is with new owner or in your case a bogus owner.

You don't even need that, give the DVLA £25, fill a form out, the DVLA write to the registered keeper, if they don't get a reply in 14 days it gets transferred to the new keeper

 

[Ewan]

Though a V5 isn’t proof of ownership. Its just a bit of paper stating who the DVLA believes to be the registered keeper.

 

[lifes2short]

Though a V5 isn’t proof of ownership. Its just a bit of paper stating who the DVLA believes to be the registered keeper.

you are right, however, we all assume that who ever is on the V5c is the actual owner

 

[lifes2short]

You don't even need that, give the DVLA £25, fill a form out, the DVLA write to the registered keeper, if they don't get a reply in 14 days it gets transferred to the new keeper

at least with that system DVLA write to the current owner, with the on line system there is no notification whatsoever and transfer happens immediately

 

[philw696]

I moan about administration over here and I fully understand why in the main it's to stop fraud especially buying and selling cars.
I've only just received the log book for the Mini Cooper project.
There's no way you can meet someone you have never met and just buy a car easily even for me and I'm registered as a Garagiste and popping my name and postcode into Google brings everything up about my activities.

 

[zagatoes30]

Doesn't sound great at least it's only a few grand these rogues do the same with cars worth 10s even 100s of thousands and the bu99ers are allowed to still trade

Fingers crossed small claims court will get you money back

 

[Wack61]

Though a V5 isn’t proof of ownership. Its just a bit of paper stating who the DVLA believes to be the registered keeper.

Exactly, I suppose the only other thing you could do is ask for ID to show the guy on the V5C is who's stood in front of you but I've never done that, even then it'd need to be photo I'd

 

[lifes2short]

Exactly, I suppose the only other thing you could do is ask for ID to show the guy on the V5C is who's stood in front of you but I've never done that, even then it'd need to be photo I'd

thats not going help you as per Ewan's comments, even with ID as proof and it tallied with the V5c it doesn't actually mean he was the owner of the car, only the registered keeper with no rights to sell, technically you would need a purchase receipt as proof of ownership but then who does that, I've always bought with just the knowledge that person on V5c is the owner and luckily never been stung, always HPI'd in case of usual things including outstanding finance, think you've been very unlucky

 

[MarkMas]

thats not going help you as per Ewan's comments, even with ID as proof and it tallied with the V5c it doesn't actually mean he was the owner of the car, only the registered keeper with no rights to sell, technically you would need a purchase receipt as proof of ownership but then who does that, I've always bought with just the knowledge that person on V5c is the owner and luckily never been stung, always HPI'd in case of usual things including outstanding finance, think you've been very unlucky

At least you know who to sue if you have a copy of ID and a real address.

 

[MarkMas]

This P38 would be nice to have:

Perhaps @Ewan will buy it and lend it to me.

So, I guess this isn't happening, then?

 

[Wack61]

thats not going help you as per Ewan's comments, even with ID as proof and it tallied with the V5c it doesn't actually mean he was the owner of the car, only the registered keeper with no rights to sell, technically you would need a purchase receipt as proof of ownership but then who does that, I've always bought with just the knowledge that person on V5c is the owner and luckily never been stung, always HPI'd in case of usual things including outstanding finance, think you've been very unlucky

I have got a receipt, the police confirmed all the details were correct, whenever I sell a car I print off the AA sale contract, this time I did it when I bought one

I HPI'd it, came back clean, well it would, didn't get reported stolen until after I'd bought it

The only thing that's annoying me is the DVLA allowed it to be re-registered in somone else's name while they're investigating how it got registered in my name in the first place.

He 100% believed he had the legal right to sell me that car which was pretty worthless in the condition it was

Unrepaired cat N, no mot, non runner at a time the range rover market was in freefall

I think somebody in the family saw it had a new owner and mot so talked the guy into reporting it stolen

 

[lifes2short]

I have got a receipt, the police confirmed all the details were correct, whenever I sell a car I print off the AA sale contract, this time I did it when I bought one

I HPI'd it, came back clean, well it would, didn't get reported stolen until after I'd bought it

The only thing that's annoying me is the DVLA allowed it to be re-registered in somone else's name while they're investigating how it got registered in my name in the first place.

He 100% believed he had the legal right to sell me that car which was pretty worthless in the condition it was

Unrepaired cat N, no mot, non runner at a time the range rover market was in freefall

I think somebody in the family saw it had a new owner and mot so talked the guy into reporting it stolen

what a head feck, as you say why on earth did DVLA allow it to be re-registered and the whole thing sounds a right mess

 

[Nayf]

All of the money (and much more) but this is peak spec http://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202404228940926

Have rather gone off the idea after watching a bloke struggle to get an admittedly newer FFRR out of Waitrose car park at rush hour, much to the jeering and swearing of fellow road users. Took him all of five minutes.
I tend to prefer small cars (despite my height of 6ft5) anyway - I happily zip around in the 145, and quite fancy a RS Twingo 133 for when it becomes too old for regular use. However, a Rangey is my wife’s long held dream. She’s 5ft3. The irony isn’t lost etc.