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[Mott The Hoople]

This^^^

Can't be any different to using a phone whilst driving?
Can't see how they're legal.

Using a hands-free phone whilst driving is legal. It is, however, every bit as dangerous as using a hand held phone. All the research shows that it is having your attention relocated to another part of the country that is the dangerous aspect.
Steve.

 

[MrMickS]

Using a hands-free phone whilst driving is legal. It is, however, every bit as dangerous as using a hand held phone. All the research shows that it is having your attention relocated to another part of the country that is the dangerous aspect.
Steve.

That's stretching things a little. The distraction factor is the same, no doubt, but using a hand held phone means you are removing a hand from the wheel for an extended period of time and will have difficulty operating other controls such as indicators.


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[MarkMas]

That's stretching things a little. The distraction factor is the same, no doubt, but using a hand held phone means you are removing a hand from the wheel for an extended period of time and will have difficulty operating other controls such as indicators.


The research suggests that touching the phone is a trivial physical distraction (like, say, touching the heater controls) compared with the major brain distraction caused by the conversation.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36475180

But also I wonder if part of the problem is that we are used to giving phone screens compete attention, unlike in-car screens. So, for example, perhaps changing the music track on a phone draws the attention completely away from driving, where doing the same on an in-car CD player would not.

 

[MrMickS]

I'm not arguing about the distraction factor. The physical act of holding a phone to the ear must make it more dangerous. That's not reaching to touch a phone but trying to drive one handed.


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[Mott The Hoople]

I'm not arguing about the distraction factor. The physical act of holding a phone to the ear must make it more dangerous. That's not reaching to touch a phone but trying to drive one handed.


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No. That's a common misconception, but it's totally erroneous. You're constantly moving a hand on and off the wheel and and many disabled drivers only ever have one hand on. You would probably be amazed at how much time you spend touching your own head whilst driving. All of this has been shown not to have any effect at all on risk. The Transport and Road Research Laboratory has been looking into just this sort of stuff since 1933 (mobiles not entirely since 1933 obviously). The danger comes entirely from the neurological functions and where your primary focus is at any tiny instant of time. Just don't fix your lippie whilst driving as that does have an effect.

 

[Tufan]

Miss the Heads Up Display (HUD) on my M5 where it showed speed , Rpm in form of a colour coded rev meter and sat nav directions when on. All cars should have them now IMO.

There are aftermarket solutions but not sure how they really perform.
http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/GPS-Head-Up...%3A987349871580a786897f1e91ffec3f58%7Ciid%3A3