Urgent help

[Dyer3200]

Here is the battery in situ

Dave not sure what u mean about a tray ?

 

[Gixerboy]

Chris ,

No disrespect mate, but why not get a jump start?
If u do not know how to disconnect / cables maybe the AA is the solution to get you going again.
This is as straightforward as it gets...

 

[Dyer3200]

Chris

For battery removal

Remove the 2 wing nuts on either end of the silver bar running across the top of the battery
In the lower picture (right hand side of battery) get a spanner and loosen the clamp on the right terminal -
When released you can move the battery towards you to get better access to the left terminal + (top picture)
I can't do red circles or I would

 

[Dyer3200]

Thanks, I am close to selling which is why I only want a quick fix. Guy already getting a bargain really. If I arranged a recovery car would they be able to charge "slowly"?

I feel your pain you are practically giving the car away so I understood the quick fix

Do you have a battery charger ?

You could jump start the car as suggested and go on a long run to get some charge in the battery but sods law when your buyer turns up it won't start

 

[Wattie]

Hang on. Do the right thing!
It's a 100 quid and karmas a terrible ***** slap.
Sell the car as you would want to receive it.
Cheers Wattie

 

[ChrisQP09]

Thanks guys. @Mark, from what I recall tonight my battery does not have the bar across it. On reading the forums and the manual, it advises not to jump start through another car battery otherwise a host of problems could arise.

I have no battery charger, will a breakdown/recovery person be able to put enough charge in the battery without causing electrical problems or blowing the battery? The car is my main concern and I don't want to cause any further issues when I am so close to selling it and worst keep (if ever that was a bad problem) to keep the car. Essentially if a breakdown person can assist without frying the thing, I'll do that.

 

[ChrisQP09]

Hang on. Do the right thing!
It's a 100 quid and karmas a terrible ***** slap.
Sell the car as you would want to receive it.
Cheers Wattie

I feel if I get a quick fix, it may not present itself for months again or ever in which case "these things happen" but as it stands the guy is getting a bargain and I won't buy a new battery if I'm not going to be the owner. If it were brakes etc I would but I cannot justify giving anymore to get the sale over the line. I could but then I would have to get cheaper tyres and theyre things I would'nt cheap out.

 

[Wack61]

£100 is worth is for the peace of mind, how will you feel if he turns up, walks away and it's months before another buyer is interested

I had a Jaguar 4.0 S type , I had electrical gremlins on that , the electronics need a stable voltage, if you've got a cell down in the battery it might hold enough to start it but the voltage won't be correct so the gremlins will still be there

As soon as I fitted a new battery it was fine

 

[ChrisQP09]

£100 is worth is for the peace of mind, how will you feel if he turns up, walks away and it's months before another buyer is interested

I had a Jaguar 4.0 S type , I had electrical gremlins on that , the electronics need a stable voltage, if you've got a cell down in the battery it might hold enough to start it but the voltage won't be correct so the gremlins will still be there

As soon as I fitted a new battery it was fine

I know Ill hopefully get it running again and buy a trickle as ill need that regardless for next car. The car the prospective buyer is getting is already undervalued and I'm being made to sweat over it so there is no way on principals alone I'll spend another £1 unless I "need" to.

 

[Wack61]

even if you don't buy an optimate you want one that offers the same functions , they do keep the battery in good condition and are designed to be left on permanently.

Mine has a connector that you attach to the battery so it's just a plug to connect it

 

[ChrisQP09]

I feel your pain you are practically giving the car away so I understood the quick fix

Do you have a battery charger ?

You could jump start the car as suggested and go on a long run to get some charge in the battery but sods law when your buyer turns up it won't start

Jump start sounds ok but a lot of mixed opinions on doing it both in the manual and online.
Where are the terminals located? I suspect my battery is different and apparently the terminals are on opposite sides with these batteries, but they should be colour coded or have a +/-?

 

[Arfa]

When I was having battery issues I jump started my QP several times using leads from my Range Rover and once using the RAC jump pack without any issues. I didn't disconnect anything, just attached the leads and started the car. I also disconnect my battery using the isolator every time I'm parking the car up for more than a few days and turn it back on when I next use the car without any issues other than putting the code into the radio and resetting the clock.

 

[ChrisQP09]

Thanks, perhaps I'm being naïve in thinking a standard recovery service won't know that a Maserati is a little more specialised. If a simple jump pack will do ill opt for that.

 

[daverichardson]

Hi all
My battery is still on charge in situ (overnight)
I am waiting for the new replacement today
I would like to know a procedure for the swap over particularly how on earth do you disconnect the +ive terminal and the tray of terminals that sit on top/in front of the +ive terminal, given that access is awkward to say the least?
Also the doors still only operate mechanically, is there a procedure for this too?

 

[daverichardson]

OK Guys latest update
New battery arrived and is on charge just to be sure
Existing battery charged up over night and there was enough power there to start the car
I have cycled the engine a couple of times and all of the electric faults have cleared.
The doors also operate electronically
So I am ready to go with the change over
But
I am still no wiser with the tray arrangement above the +ive terminal
There are 3 coloured plastic tabs Reed Blue and Brown and the tray moves up and down slightly - are these plastic plugs that may be prized out and allow the tray and components to be lifted?
Also the new battery does not appear to have locating holes to receive them
It is a Bosch like for like replacement

So I am just waiting for the new battery to get a bit of a charge and solve the +ive terminal tray issue
Any help is appreciated

 

[ChrisQP09]

Ok car started again but getting the following error messages:

Tire pressure system failure
Electrical system failure

Airbag Failure

Would these disappear with a battery reset and would my dealer do this FOC?

 

[outrun]

I suspect that the battery charge is low and that a fully charged battery, holding it's charge and a reset would clear the errors. I too, would buy a new battery and be done with it irrespective of how low you sold it for Chris.

 

[drewf]

OK Guys latest update
New battery arrived and is on charge just to be sure
Existing battery charged up over night and there was enough power there to start the car
I have cycled the engine a couple of times and all of the electric faults have cleared.
The doors also operate electronically
So I am ready to go with the change over
But
I am still no wiser with the tray arrangement above the +ive terminal
There are 3 coloured plastic tabs Reed Blue and Brown and the tray moves up and down slightly - are these plastic plugs that may be prized out and allow the tray and components to be lifted?
Also the new battery does not appear to have locating holes to receive them
It is a Bosch like for like replacement

So I am just waiting for the new battery to get a bit of a charge and solve the +ive terminal tray issue
Any help is appreciated

When I've removed mine in the past, it had a standard ring-style battery clamp, which is 'just' accessible behind and below that plastic tray affair. I'd suggest you remove the earth connection first, and ensure it can't find its way back to the '-' terminal on the battery. Then, it will be safe to get a small spanner into the '+' side, even allowing for the odd touch to metal that you almost certainly will do. I used a mobile phone poked above the battery to take a quick photo of how the terminals worked - one look at that confirmed to me there was nothing special, just a normal (10mm from memory) spanner would release it for you.

The whole tray comes off as a complete assembly - no need to disconnect any cables from it.

 

[drewf]

Ok car started again but getting the following error messages:

Tire pressure system failure
Electrical system failure

Airbag Failure

Would these disappear with a battery reset and would my dealer do this FOC?

Probably - disconnect the battery, allow some time to pass, and reconnect a fully charged battery. Tends to clear many faults, and doing just that has cleared exactly those faults on mine when I foolishly allowed the battery to drain flat.

My thoughts go with everyone else who has mentioned getting a new battery on it - surely you won't want to be the person who left the new owner of your car stranded, because you didn't want to buy a new battery? I'd imagine it could be the point that clinches the deal - if the buyer has the slightest knowledge about how sensitive these cars are to poor batteries, being given a receipt for a brand new battery could be just the ticket. Your call, obviously.

 

[daverichardson]

When I've removed mine in the past, it had a standard ring-style battery clamp, which is 'just' accessible behind and below that plastic tray affair. I'd suggest you remove the earth connection first, and ensure it can't find its way back to the '-' terminal on the battery. Then, it will be safe to get a small spanner into the '+' side, even allowing for the odd touch to metal that you almost certainly will do. I used a mobile phone poked above the battery to take a quick photo of how the terminals worked - one look at that confirmed to me there was nothing special, just a normal (10mm from memory) spanner would release it for you.

The whole tray comes off as a complete assembly - no need to disconnect any cables from it.

Hi Drewf
I was thinking on those lines too since I can lever the plastic tray up a bit with a screwdriver and it does not appear to be connected direct to the battery but to the +ive lead
New battery is still on charge so it will probably be tomorrow now
Thanks for your time