Amazing... what could be more perfect for your Ghibli?!!!

JonW

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If this is just GH16 LII, would that have been issued originally for £250?

If so, then it seems like someone made a killing selling that for £5k...
 

Ghostrider

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Lol... yeah I guess someone did... although most people familiar with the buying of private plates know that dvla hold back any plate that is of any worth or reads favourably for a motoring enthusiast and then auction them separately so they don’t fall within the £250 a plate bracket... lol... but hey what do I know i’ve only every bought like 15 different plates in the past so my experience is probably limited compared to most on this forum
 

lifes2short

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curve of the 6 was cut off

Whilst I wish you the best of luck with the sale which does seem rather ambitious, surely you cant be serious, that would make it totally illegal on it's own and would also fail an MOT inspection, would I be right in saying that the plate has no BSAU markings.
 

JonW

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Lol... yeah I guess someone did... although most people familiar with the buying of private plates know that dvla hold back any plate that is of any worth or reads favourably for a motoring enthusiast and then auction them separately so they don’t fall within the £250 a plate bracket... lol... but hey what do I know i’ve only every bought like 15 different plates in the past so my experience is probably limited compared to most on this forum

No offence meant by my post - so did you buy it in a DVLA auction then?
 

Ghostrider

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i think I mentioned it in a message to Ewan and maybe not on here but I’m equally happy to keep the plate. I wasn’t expecting anyone to pay me £5k for it as that was something I paid because I was keen to have it on my Ghibli. Hence why I said I was open to sensible offers as long as they didn’t sting me to the point of absurdity. Of course if it is not of interest to anyone 1-I have no choice but to keep it lol and 2- Im equally happy to put t away in storage for future use.. my next comment will address the legalities point raised above
 

Ghostrider

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For those who asked about the legality of the number 6... please note that the guidance issued by the government for plates after 2001 is as follows:
characters must be 79mm tall
• characters (except the number 1 or letter I) must be 50mm wide
• the character stroke (the thickness of the black print) must be 14mm
• the space between characters must be 11mm
• the space between the age identifier and the random letters must be 33mm
• the margins at the top, bottom and side of the plate must be 11mm
• vertical space between the age identifier and the random letters must be 19mm.

The plate meets these requirements so therefore is perfectly legal and given the format is post 2001 the police will not be questioning wether it is GH16 lol as that it is all it can be.

Markings are present on the plate, but are hidden by the black holder hence why you may be making an assumption to their absence because you can’t see them.

Hope that addresses that question. Class dismissed.
 

Ghostrider

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Jon w- non taken but thank you for anyway for being kind enough to say you didn’t mean it in any case.

I actually bought the plate from a friend who had bought it for his brand new Ghibli but unfortunately his Ghibli met an early death so I took the plate from him when I bought my Ghibli knowing how much he had paid for it and that I wasn’t having the wool pulled over my eyes.
 

lifes2short

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Thanks for the info Ghostrider, however, the following rules also apply

General rules for displaying number plates

The law states that you must not alter, rearrange or misrepresent the letters or numbers on number plates. Characters must not be moved from one group to the other (e.g. A242 ABC must not be displayed as A242A BC).

Offences may result in any or all of the following:

  • A fine of up to £1,000
  • The registration mark being withdrawn
  • The vehicle failing its MOT
 

Wanderer

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Lol... love that’s it has piqued some interest even if not the buying kind.

Regards the points raised.. it’s not a show plate, genuine plate from ‘plate factory’, and secondly it is not a lower case b, it is a 6 the only thing is that the curve of the 6 was cut off, the plate is not printed it is made from carbon gel lettering and therefore the 6 was put into position and the slight curve at the top was cut of with a Stanley knife. Still a 6.

Plate has been on the car for over a year, car is in daily use not just a weekend car and have never been pulled once for the plate.

Think it's still illegal though, and can't see the postcode of the plate maker and the BS number.

Reminds me of texting in Cyrillic with Latin charset, 6 for Russian
For those who asked about the legality of the number 6... please note that the guidance issued by the government for plates after 2001 is as follows:
characters must be 79mm tall
• characters (except the number 1 or letter I) must be 50mm wide
• the character stroke (the thickness of the black print) must be 14mm
• the space between characters must be 11mm
• the space between the age identifier and the random letters must be 33mm
• the margins at the top, bottom and side of the plate must be 11mm
• vertical space between the age identifier and the random letters must be 19mm.

The plate meets these requirements so therefore is perfectly legal and given the format is post 2001 the police will not be questioning wether it is GH16 lol as that it is all it can be.

Markings are present on the plate, but are hidden by the black holder hence why you may be making an assumption to their absence because you can’t see them.

Hope that addresses that question. Class dismissed.
Sorry there's mo way that 6 is legal for a number plate, otherwise I'd make my S555 SVK into SSSS SVK or 5555 5VK!
 

Ghostrider

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Thanks for the info Ghostrider, however, the following rules also apply

General rules for displaying number plates

The law states that you must not alter, rearrange or misrepresent the letters or numbers on number plates. Characters must not be moved from one group to the other (e.g. A242 ABC must not be displayed as A242A BC).

Offences may result in any or all of the following:

  • A fine of up to £1,000
  • The registration mark being withdrawn
  • The vehicle failing its MOT
Agreed. And in the grand scheme of things if the plate falls foul of the above (the spirit of which is about misrepresenting the plate) this does so in such a minor way that the infringement is trivial.
Although I also accept thatold idiom of each to his own and accept that different people will have different tolerances for risk and appetites for risk aversion will also vary.

My Academic background and career are both in Law so I tend to be ok accepting this given the bigger and wider issues at play around us
 

Ghostrider

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Think it's still illegal though, and can't see the postcode of the plate maker and the BS number.

Reminds me of texting in Cyrillic with Latin charset, 6 for Russian

Sorry there's mo way that 6 is legal for a number plate, otherwise I'd make my S555 SVK into SSSS SVK or 5555 5VK!
Lol from the sublime often to the ridiculous... ur plate would be illegal because the s is now 5 and in both the above scenarios creates a clear misrepresentation.. my six is still a six and still wants to be a six Infact it takes offence at anybody not thinking it’s a six and would write a letter of complaint to anybody who questions otherwise...

In anycase this has become far more then I would have liked to talk about a letter on a number plate. The police care less then the people on this forum. What fine upstanding citizens we all are. So I thank everybody for their Sunday afternoon interest, for the riveting conversation on the vagaries of number plate lettering and bid you adieu.

Have a wonderful evening all.
 

Wanderer

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Agreed. And in the grand scheme of things if the plate falls foul of the above (the spirit of which is about misrepresenting the plate) this does so in such a minor way that the infringement is trivial.
Although I also accept thatold idiom of each to his own and accept that different people will have different tolerances for risk and appetites for risk aversion will also vary.

My Academic background and career are both in Law so I tend to be ok accepting this given the bigger and wider issues at play around us
I remember reading an auto book in 70's/80's showed pics of car with Roman numerals on the number plates, and I still don't thing that's actually illegal. Presumably 'Latin' must include 'Roman'

So my current KXZ 4221 could be KXZ MMMMCCXXI..........
 

lifes2short

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Naturally you (Ghostrider) are simply selling GH16 LII, it's then up to the new owner to decide whether they wish to break the law and display it as shown on your car, most reputable number plate manufacturers will make the plate up as a show plate and with no BS numbers as it is not legal.

So is the plate on a retention certificate now?
 

Wanderer

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Lol from the sublime often to the ridiculous... ur plate would be illegal because the s is now 5 and in both the above scenarios creates a clear misrepresentation.. my six is still a six and still wants to be a six Infact it takes offence at anybody not thinking it’s a six and would write a letter of complaint to anybody who questions otherwise...

In anycase this has become far more then I would have liked to talk about a letter on a number plate. The police care less then the people on this forum. What fine upstanding citizens we all are. So I thank everybody for their Sunday afternoon interest, for the riveting conversation on the vagaries of number plate lettering and bid you adieu.

Have a wonderful evening all.

No, your '6' is actually a 'b' no matter how you want to dress it up.
 

Ghostrider

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Naturally you (Ghostrider) are simply selling GH16 LII, it's then up to the new owner to decide whether they wish to break the law and display it as shown on your car, most reputable number plate manufacturers will make the plate up as a show plate and with no BS numbers as it is not legal.

So is the plate on a retention certificate now?

Probably the most sensible first paragraph I have read all day today. Your username is a perfect reflection of the attitude shown in your paragraph and you do aptly hit the nail on the head. Effectively this was...

“Here’s a plate guys, with little effort ou can make it look like “Ghibli” and fin yoi own a Ghibli... wow wouldn’t that be a cool plate to have on your car.. p.s if you don’t have a Ghibli, don’t want the plate or don’t want to make it look “Ghibli”.... no pressure... don’t”
 

Wanderer

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Who are you?

I am number 2, you are lower case B.

What do your want?

We want, information and a legitimate number 6

You won't get it.

By British Standard Mark (BS AU 145d) we will

I am not a lower case B, I am a legal number plate.......

Cue Caterham Seven and Portmerrion.....
 

dunnah01

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Lol Ok my typing and grammar is now suffering... enjoy your evening folks ...
Crikey you've taken a **** of a roasting haven't you. If somebody wants to buy your plate then fair play to them. The onlt risk is if Mr Plod is bored one day they will run the risk of BennyD style Tutting, but it's not the most heinous crime out there. I hope you find a good home for the plate and maybe get a good price for it. I also hope you don't get put off the forum which is usually a much friendlier place.