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williamsmix

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I found the dealer interaction was a copy paste email reply, and zero interest in getting me in a car, despite the emailed enthusiasm…! Very weird.
BMW were the same. No response to test ride application but plenty of marketing dross and surveys about satisfaction. What this country knows about customer service you could put on a stamp….
My very recent experience with Alpine is similar. The dealers I’ve interacted with have Alpine integrated into large Renault dealerships with dedicated Alpine showrooms and one salesperson dealing with all Alpine enquiries … I expect they’re getting overwhelmed! I’ve emailed, phoned and left messages and no one has got back to me! Yep, it’s poor customer service and I ask myself if I should do business with them, or take my money elsewhere.
 

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My very recent experience with Alpine is similar. The dealers I’ve interacted with have Alpine integrated into large Renault dealerships with dedicated Alpine showrooms and one salesperson dealing with all Alpine enquiries … I expect they’re getting overwhelmed! I’ve emailed, phoned and left messages and no one has got back to me! Yep, it’s poor customer service and I ask myself if I should do business with them, or take my money elsewhere.
I wonder about that. They really don’t sell many units here in the UK. The cars have a production shelf life for sure….Many options are fast disappearing from the configurator, colors and wheels and such. You can’t ever really spec it as you’d like somehow. I guess less to think about but doesn’t that rather take the shine off what is now a £70K car…?
 

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I wonder about that. They really don’t sell many units here in the UK. The cars have a production shelf life for sure….Many options are fast disappearing from the configurator, colors and wheels and such. You can’t ever really spec it as you’d like somehow. I guess less to think about but doesn’t that rather take the shine off what is now a £70K car…?
Yes, if you start loading your favourite options into the configurator you end with a figure way over base price - the aero kit on the S in £6k alone - which makes some of the stock cars on offer look more attractive. The 3 I've looked into are all discounted between 6 - 8%.
 

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Did they put the prices up to make the stock look cheap…?
I think you’re right. Delivery miles cars, and apparently attractive prices. As Ewan has pointed out, you need to watch production dates. That way, you know what the actual cost was at the time. And take the spec you can get. And put up with lousy Infotainment to
I guess folk buy them on finance. Sort of floods the market with hardly used cars with specs you accept rather than chose.. Just as well they seem to hold decent residuals…? How the other half live…!!
 

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Yes, if you start loading your favourite options into the configurator you end with a figure way over base price - the aero kit on the S in £6k alone - which makes some of the stock cars on offer look more attractive. The 3 I've looked into are all discounted between 6 - 8%.
The one I'm toying with is the San Remo 73. It comes as it comes, so there's no getting bogged down in spec/options. It qualifies for the 0% finance deal and I love the colour, and the white wheels, and the micro-suede interior. The stickers are removble, so that's not an issue. But I'm less convinced about the red carbon roof (though I suppose that could be black carbon wrapped).
List is about £77,500 but there are deals to be done. Virtually every dealer has one in stock, so they need to compete to sell.
Plus it has a higher residual value than a standard GT or S, so over say 3 of 5 years, should cost less than a £70k standard car.
 

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The one I'm toying with is the San Remo 73. It comes as it comes, so there's no getting bogged down in spec/options. It qualifies for the 0% finance deal and I love the colour, and the white wheels, and the micro-suede interior. The stickers are removble, so that's not an issue. But I'm less convinced about the red carbon roof (though I suppose that could be black carbon wrapped).
List is about £77,500 but there are deals to be done. Virtually every dealer has one in stock, so they need to compete to sell.
Plus it has a higher residual value than a standard GT or S, so over say 3 of 5 years, should cost less than a £70k standard car.
They certainly have one of those at Hendy Alpine in Southampton, with the red roof. Ask for Adam Stewart who heads up Alpine sales over there … I didn’t pay much attention to it as I was more interested in a GT, but subsequently think the S is the one to go for due to the stiffened up chassis etc and improved road handling at higher speeds. Presumably the San Remo is an S under its skin(?). So it’s priced about £8k over the S stock that’s on offer. Never that sure about future residuals beyond any agreed GFV but I reckon the car is a guaranteed future classic - much like the 4C - without waiting 20 years for people to adopt it as such, so should see off the depreciation to some extent.
 
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Did someone post Harry’s recent review of the GT here…?
Disappointingly he made no mention of the seats. I have seen a few reviews saying the GT seats arent a match for the buckets…..
Most reviews actually don’t rate the S over a standard car either….
I recommend you drive them both. Be rude not to…!
 

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I had a brief chat with Gerry at Goodwood a few years ago, and although he was in a wheelchair and not in the best of health he still wanted to be there. He was one of motorsports great characters - with a talent for very rapid progress (especially sideways).
 

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Did someone post Harry’s recent review of the GT here…?
Disappointingly he made no mention of the seats. I have seen a few reviews saying the GT seats arent a match for the buckets…..
Most reviews actually don’t rate the S over a standard car either….
I recommend you drive them both. Be rude not to…!
Yep, the reviews do vary. Problem is most of them only assess / compare the cars at legal speeds on British B roads. However, if you check out the reviews that test the cars on unrestricted Autobahn then you find the road holding of the standard car declines as it approaches maximum speed. Alpine were able to address that with the changes they made in the S, and deliver a slight increase in top speed to 161 mph (or 170 mph with the aero pack).
 

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Evo ’. Nurburgring. There’s a fair bit out there that doesnt follow the mold.( I don’t actually disagree and wonder if Id be disappointed not to stumped up for an S- u can keep the aero tho’)
I suppose I don’t think like a buyer on pcp or whatever.. you can chip them for less than a grand. Life a110’s geo reportedly makes for a real improvements and it’s free. A few years down the road and the struts will be tired. Throw on some decent wheels and better telescopes, ( really better…) and you reinvent ‘your’ standard car and the ownership experience. None of it advisable if you bought it on finance, obviously…
I don’t really see how they justify the difference in cost given the quality of what they upsell. Maybe that’s just me. A good Premier Edition car has the bones of everything else that followed. Sub 10K mile car for less than£40K is easily achievable.
The crazy prices for another few grams lost on carbon for the ‘R’cars..I think I can see where this is going…! Good for them. But I start to lose interest…
 
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Evo ’. Nurburgring. There’s a fair bit out there that doesnt follow the mold.( I don’t actually disagree and wonder if Id be disappointed not to stumped up for an S- u can keep the aero tho’)
I suppose I don’t think like a buyer on pcp or whatever.. you can chip them for less than a grand. Life a110’s geo reportedly makes for a real improvements and it’s free. A few years down the road and the struts will be tired. Throw on some decent wheels and better telescopes, ( really better…) and you reinvent ‘your’ standard car and the ownership experience. None of it advisable if you bought it on finance, obviously…
I don’t really see how they justify the difference in cost given the quality of what they upsell. Maybe that’s just me. A good Premier Edition car has the bones of everything else that followed. Sub 10K mile car for less than£40K is easily achievable.
The crazy prices for another few grams lost on carbon for the ‘R’cars..I think I can see where this is going…! Good for them. But I start to lose interest…
If you get a spreadsheet up and make some assumptions about interest rates on your savings and depreciation, you'll find that you'll be about £5k better off by buying a brand new S outright under their 0% PCP offer than paying cash for a 3 year old S. Of course, by 'better off' I mean that you'll lose about £5K less by buying the new car ... LOL! ... e.g. Assuming interest rates of around 4.5% and depreciation over 3 years of about 25% I come out with a loss of around £11,300 on a brand new S (£69k) vs a loss of £16,500 on a used S (£43k) ...
 

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I had a brief chat with Gerry at Goodwood a few years ago, and although he was in a wheelchair and not in the best of health he still wanted to be there. He was one of motorsports great characters - with a talent for very rapid progress (especially sideways).
I knew his brother very well and met Gerry a couple of times, both were great pedallers with a very tail out approach. Sadly neither still with us Martin died last year however the genes may well pass on as Martins daughter is married to Pat Doran's son Liam who has been known to be quite quick ;)
 

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The one I'm toying with is the San Remo 73. It comes as it comes, so there's no getting bogged down in spec/options. It qualifies for the 0% finance deal and I love the colour, and the white wheels, and the micro-suede interior. The stickers are removble, so that's not an issue. But I'm less convinced about the red carbon roof (though I suppose that could be black carbon wrapped).
List is about £77,500 but there are deals to be done. Virtually every dealer has one in stock, so they need to compete to sell.
Plus it has a higher residual value than a standard GT or S, so over say 3 of 5 years, should cost less than a £70k standard car.
The San Remo looks tasty
 

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Well, Hendy told me that 0% APR is only available on what they have in stock, which was pretty limited but discounted, as you say. I’ve had that same message from another dealer too; no 0% on newly configured orders (which have a 3-4 month lead time). I think Alpine are having a clear out, perhaps ahead of a transition to an electric replacement(?). Maybe they’ll hold 0% after the end of the month, but if they have a lot of new stock going out at 0% that may reduce demand for used stock along with the margins dealers are currently able to ask over GFVs …
You are correct and I am wrong. The 0% deals are only on stock cars, and these are running out so unlikely to go beyond this month. Very few GT’s left, but better stock of S variants. (According to the dealer I just chatted to.)