i saw this..........
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=24553
the owner must be loaded, minted!!
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=24553
the owner must be loaded, minted!!
andy, adam, valuations??
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"rally it"!
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2b1ask1
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No £150k tops ther're not that uncommon to find delivery mileage and that one is prety low spec, cloth seats etc. My former business partner picked one up in 98 with 000025 miles only for £125k and Porsche UK sorted it for road use, he put about 20k on it before it had to be let go... Unofficially they cost Porsche over £1 million each to build, Sultan of Brunai had one converted to right hand drive, there is or was one that was made a convertable after the owner flipped it on a German autobharn and it was the cheaper repair!
In another rather special location I worked where exotics arrived and went after I preped them, one transporter arrived with an unrecoreded UK registered origional GT40 in Gulf livery, one of the two Maserati Boomerangs built and a 0 mileage 959... That was cloth inside too; I cannot remember the colour but I think silver or red....Yes I worked on all of them, sitting in the boomerang was probably what set me on the road to wanting a Maserati!!!
959's are really not good at low speed on the road; all nuckley & clunky as the drives and diffs try and sort it out but my goodnes they were lightning quick, on the track they would shoot flames on every change from the dumps and exhausts, that is where they are supreme...
In another rather special location I worked where exotics arrived and went after I preped them, one transporter arrived with an unrecoreded UK registered origional GT40 in Gulf livery, one of the two Maserati Boomerangs built and a 0 mileage 959... That was cloth inside too; I cannot remember the colour but I think silver or red....Yes I worked on all of them, sitting in the boomerang was probably what set me on the road to wanting a Maserati!!!
959's are really not good at low speed on the road; all nuckley & clunky as the drives and diffs try and sort it out but my goodnes they were lightning quick, on the track they would shoot flames on every change from the dumps and exhausts, that is where they are supreme...
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They may be coming up again, there are some very high spec ones out there and a good many of them have some super provenance of ownership that will lift them. Interestingly enough (one for Adam perhaps) the production run was limited at the time to qualify for rallying. Eddy Ivine was in the market for one and Porshe 'found' one for him that erm... must have been put together as a special from parts as it was not in the origional production run!
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To be honest Dem, i dont know much about these cars as i have never been a fan, they are not as loved as the Ferrari F40. It is difficult to value a car like this, as Newton pointed out, low spec with cloth seats but it is Guards Red which is a rarer colour, most were Silver. 199 were made and Porsche made a loss on every single one. I would value it at 175k.
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I'm not a great fan of Porsches in general, you have to admire what they are which is a lightened supurbly engineered piece of German perfectionism. Any company that is anal about shaving 1/4mm of the inside of the glove box lid to save 3.2g is earning its respect... then a 20stone lump like me gets in and throws all their hard work to c0ck!
I do however have a real appreciation of the pinnicle of engineering that the 959 was in it's day; constant 4 wheel drive with proportional ballance and LSD's all round, on the fly suspension adjustment from high speed lowering to 6" jack-up for off road (could go from tarmac to dirt at 120mph!), full kevlar body in the 80's!!!! Then there was the engine OMG! I loved every moment I worked on the car, occasionally drove it and mostly going round Brands Hatch & Silverstone in it (sadly only ever in the passenger seat).... It could out corner and out pace the contempoary (2000) Porsche cup cars but not out brake them!
The 959 was in every way the Veyron of it's day the F40 was a very different beast for a very different purpose but got the glory, like the Ford RS200 it came at a sad time in World Rallying when the headlines like this last fortnight were all the wrong ones....
For me it was another lifetime in many ways, I loved it and part of me would want to do it all again; but not the bit that got so badly ripped off (but that's another story).....
I do however have a real appreciation of the pinnicle of engineering that the 959 was in it's day; constant 4 wheel drive with proportional ballance and LSD's all round, on the fly suspension adjustment from high speed lowering to 6" jack-up for off road (could go from tarmac to dirt at 120mph!), full kevlar body in the 80's!!!! Then there was the engine OMG! I loved every moment I worked on the car, occasionally drove it and mostly going round Brands Hatch & Silverstone in it (sadly only ever in the passenger seat).... It could out corner and out pace the contempoary (2000) Porsche cup cars but not out brake them!
The 959 was in every way the Veyron of it's day the F40 was a very different beast for a very different purpose but got the glory, like the Ford RS200 it came at a sad time in World Rallying when the headlines like this last fortnight were all the wrong ones....
For me it was another lifetime in many ways, I loved it and part of me would want to do it all again; but not the bit that got so badly ripped off (but that's another story).....
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The 959 in terms of engineering is something that we should all appreciate and respect, it was a very clever car whereas the F40 had naff all, just a v8 engine and 2 huge turbo's. I think with the 959 you either love it or you dont, i respect it and it's capabilities but i just cant warm to it in any way and it is the same story with the Bugatti Veyron, i would take the keys to a Pagani Zonda every time.
I love the f40 but do like this.....its not on most peoples top 10 cars of all time and thats weird.....
I had a debate reg the veyron adam at work....a guy said he would rather have that then the zonda and i had to butt in and say im the zonda camp....i won in the end as he said he liked the spyder version....
I had a debate reg the veyron adam at work....a guy said he would rather have that then the zonda and i had to butt in and say im the zonda camp....i won in the end as he said he liked the spyder version....
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So, it is one h3ll of an engine, probably just as good as BMW's V12 for the Mclaren F1. Pagani have managed to tune the 7.3 V12 to nearly 700 bhp for the Zonda R. I bet that engine would produce 800 bhp with the right components and probably nearly 1000 with a twin turbo conversion.
The interior is the best thing about a Zonda, so elegant and unique.
