Anyone got an ADT Alarm?
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Be clear what you want. If you have 2-way audio CCTV system with 2TB hard drive permanently recording, people will be deterred from attempting a break-in. Push notifications on your phone will alert you and you can talk to anyone in the vicinity of the alarm system.
If you want an alarm system, protect windows and doors (especially at rear of property).
Police or central monitoring is a waste of time and money.
Hard wired CCTV system is the way to go. Good systems with 4 cameras are around £700 + fitting by an electrician - not an alarm specialist who will not be NIC EICS approved. Wireless additional internal and external cameras can be added for a small cost. Go for 4k HD viewing and recording (some only record at 1080p or even only 5mp). The recorder will be 8 channels (meaning upto 8 cameras can be run).
Ring doorbell is expensive and you pay to store the data on their cloud server. Instead 9f Ring or cheaper copies of Ring, I have a 2-way camera within my CCTV system at the door that alerts me as soon as anyone steps foot on my drive. I can speak to them from my phone, activate an alarm and a built-in light (currently to automatically come on within 5 yards of the front door from dusk to dawn).
Finally, any alarm or CCTV is only a deterrent. If someone wants your car or to enter your property, they will. Keep car keys out of sight in case they break-in whilst you are out. In many cases the forced entry to the premises is to get the keys for the car(s) and drive off. Cars cannot be hot wired like in days of old. But a frequency scanner can pinch your locking frequencies and open the doors. Then the problem is overcoming the immobiliser.......
If you want an alarm system, protect windows and doors (especially at rear of property).
Police or central monitoring is a waste of time and money.
Hard wired CCTV system is the way to go. Good systems with 4 cameras are around £700 + fitting by an electrician - not an alarm specialist who will not be NIC EICS approved. Wireless additional internal and external cameras can be added for a small cost. Go for 4k HD viewing and recording (some only record at 1080p or even only 5mp). The recorder will be 8 channels (meaning upto 8 cameras can be run).
Ring doorbell is expensive and you pay to store the data on their cloud server. Instead 9f Ring or cheaper copies of Ring, I have a 2-way camera within my CCTV system at the door that alerts me as soon as anyone steps foot on my drive. I can speak to them from my phone, activate an alarm and a built-in light (currently to automatically come on within 5 yards of the front door from dusk to dawn).
Finally, any alarm or CCTV is only a deterrent. If someone wants your car or to enter your property, they will. Keep car keys out of sight in case they break-in whilst you are out. In many cases the forced entry to the premises is to get the keys for the car(s) and drive off. Cars cannot be hot wired like in days of old. But a frequency scanner can pinch your locking frequencies and open the doors. Then the problem is overcoming the immobiliser.......
cheshiremaserati
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Thank you for the compliment. I do my own research and homework with relevant and appropriately qualified people. It is key to ensure one is talking to qualified professionals and not someone within a cohort who may sound professional but in reality is expressing a preference and probably knows less than being made out. Caveat emptor and all that.
cheshiremaserati
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NIC EICS electrician? That's a long time.
Gazcw
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Why is that needed for installing cctv?
lifes2short
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i don't get it, makes no difference whether niceic or any other trade qualification, the final 240v spur connection isn't exactly rocket science, what normally happens is you get an electrician to provide/wire a spur next to where end station is and then the alarm engineer will simply connect to it, some electricians might install an alarm as well if experienced enough, but not really an electricians job other than perhaps first fixing all the alarm cabling, a lot of alarms need the right gear to programme and set up properly
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who installed intruder alarms before alarm engineers an electrician who installed data before data engineers an electrician and who installed access control before access control engineers an electrician and who installed fire alarms before alarm engineers an electricaln not a semi skilld worker thats why we did a year s at collage & 7 years in all
niceic and eca now elecsa were the first trade body s to over see the standard of work napit came along and a few others and all the carp the could not get in to the niceic or elecsa went to the others not that all are good in either these days
however a lot of electricians now do these services as its easy but some are not
there is two types the ones that can and the one who can't
here are examples of good and bad choose who you will but i can assure you its more than a 13 amp switch spur on the wall when and insurance company won't pay out
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niceic and eca now elecsa were the first trade body s to over see the standard of work napit came along and a few others and all the carp the could not get in to the niceic or elecsa went to the others not that all are good in either these days
however a lot of electricians now do these services as its easy but some are not
there is two types the ones that can and the one who can't
here are examples of good and bad choose who you will but i can assure you its more than a 13 amp switch spur on the wall when and insurance company won't pay out
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rossyl
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A standard SM thread drift.
To imply every qualified electrician will do abetter job than an "installer" is quite the sweeping generalisation.
There will be good electricians and bad.
Likewise, good installers and bad.
A qualified electrician is unfortunately no guarantee of quality of work.
To imply every qualified electrician will do abetter job than an "installer" is quite the sweeping generalisation.
There will be good electricians and bad.
Likewise, good installers and bad.
A qualified electrician is unfortunately no guarantee of quality of work.
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A qualified electrician is unfortunately no guarantee of quality of work. it is with the niceic
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Gazcw
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I went to college for 3 years, did a 2 year apprenticeship, during my time in the industry I could install any type of trunking or conduit (not just plastic), terminate mineral pyro and armoured cables, repair pcb at component level (if forced to), install all levels of security and fire, I worked on British and US military bases, could 1st and 2nd fix multi floor buildings, worked with accreditation bodies, advised on standards compliance and Company requirements with manufacturers, designed and installed fire and gas extinguishing systems and a lot more. I was not a monkey who sticks something on a wall and plugs it into a socket fitted by a superior electrician, although granted there are many stick and run companies around now. There are good and bad in every industry and having a qualification in a standard doesn't mean you get a quality job.
lifes2short
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could of at least used some hgsw galvanised steel conduit/terminal/outlets and galvanised steel trunking for that rugged commercial look
Gazcw
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Still have a scar on my finger from the sawn edge of a 25mm galv pipe.
lifes2short
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and why not, quite clever use
stikey
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file & reem file and reem no cuts
Gazcw
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Yep but I did it cutting it.
Apprentice learning curve