Cheapest QP to date

[bigbob]

There is no need for anyone to be falling out here. SM is a friendly forum and needs to remain so.

Personally I base my posts on my experiences (owned two Maserati, another on the way) and what I am told directly by dealers, both main and independent, not indirectly.

There are not many posts on the QP and GT as few owners of newer, expensive cars tend to spend time on forums. Thus we can get an inappropriate sense of how good (or bad) a car is as you really need a lot of owners posting to get a representative sample.

 

[Easyplan66]

Simon, you say the forum has degraded to discussions about current cars for sale and depreciation/appreciation of certain models, is that not what most car forums are about? Everyone on here has a passion for maserati whatever the model, I think you are being a little unfair. I do understand that sometimes things get posted which some people don't agree with most people post with good intentions even if they end up being prooven incorrect.

 

[Andyk]

Andrew you are right.....Thats part of the forum....Lots can not wait for these cars to get within budget...Keeps the dream alive....

 

[Parisien]

It does seem as if QP problems do exist...maybe some wear and tear....but they are happening......how common I don't know....but overall nothing very bad showing up.....on ML


http://www.maseratilife.com/forums/quattroporte/14051-big-mechanical-problem-ny.html

http://www.maseratilife.com/forums/quattroporte/10631-remote-opening-trunk-fails.html

http://www.maseratilife.com/forums/quattroporte/13959-some-q-about-buying.html Poster also states 2007s models more reliable

http://www.maseratilife.com/forums/quattroporte/12026-gas-smell-trunk.html Known issue with them.....purge control valve

http://www.maseratilife.com/forums/quattroporte/13704-any-differences-05-07-a.html Another poster mentioned updated electronics from 2007 on

http://www.maseratilife.com/forums/quattroporte/13012-error-messages.html Electrical gremlins mentioned

http://www.maseratilife.com/forums/quattroporte/10250-water-trunk.html History of leaking into boot...sounds familiar!

http://www.maseratilife.com/forums/quattroporte/13143-does-anyone-has-problem.html Common window issue

http://www.maseratilife.com/forums/quattroporte/12745-engine-control-system-fault.html Petrol tank cap again

http://www.maseratilife.com/forums/quattroporte/11138-new-maserati-qp-owner.html Tyre pressure monitoring system fails, several times

http://www.maseratilife.com/forums/quattroporte/10528-engine-control-system-fault.html Fuel pump issues

http://www.maseratilife.com/forums/quattroporte/9808-need-help-plz.html Similar failings in F1 relay to 4200



http://www.maseratilife.com/forums/quattroporte/13879-buying-advice-07-qp.html Interesting debate on buying and what to look for and pros/cons of DS versus ZF


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[Simon]

Lucky then Enz.........was told this by an indie specialist.

As the member who first mentioned this with no personal experience, but heard from the indies mouth re this, I don't feel I am repeating hearsay....nor is it BS, posted up here in good faith.

So overnight it went from an indie to indies? Where they twins?

I don't have numbers nor frequencies nor what exactly was giving the bother.

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As I said useless baseless NONE facts. So when somebody comes to sell a QP or any Maserati and the potential buyer comes on here, see your million posts, think these guys know what he's on about and walk away because they are a "Nightmare".

 

[Simon]

The wiring on the QP was completely changed when the ZF auto went in at the start of 07. This applies to Duoselect cars too as they were still made until at least 09.

Suggest you check your facts on the eurospares site, no complete rewire. Don't believe what dealers tell you, they quite often make it up as they go along.

 

[Parisien]

Sorry Simon for my poor use of English........should have been Indie's mouth........


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[Simon]

my experience is real world not heresay. I am not scratching around for funds to buy and insured a car but if I were I would hope someone would just be realistic with me about maintenance costs. £3000 pa for a 62000 mile car is not out of the way and it would be wrong to suggest otherwise ....... Not fair to Adam ....

I think your car is perhaps also at a mileage where the larger consumables have yet to need replacing ..... Clutch, brakes, etc.

My point is that you simply need to budget.

And for what its worth I found the forum members really helpful and supportive .

I wasn't aiming at you. My point relates to " a man in a pub told me this " sort of comments not factual based evidence. My point was that in this thread QP's have been described as nightmare's , an electrical system so bad it needed a complete rewire(false), the gearbox doesn't work etc etc(all qualified by unnamed indie's). All a load of tosh from non owners.

 

[Parisien]

No pub.....involved, you're the one ratcheting it up to nightmare proportions.


Can't assume everyone is telling lies can we.......people are merely report their experiences.......all are telling lies, none of them own a QP?


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[conaero]

Ok guys time to all take a deep breath I feel.

As Loz has said, I don't have a lot of knowledge of the QP but have never been aware of them being a problematic car, far from it and quite the reverse.

Simon I do sort of understand where your coming from, it's not been the first time certain users have got hacked off by a non owner commenting on ones pride and joy but I do feel you are being very unfair slating the forum and it's members. Occasionally you will come across things you don't agree with and of course you a perfectly entitled to put forward you views and experiences, but please refrain from taking it personally.

Keep it friendly guys.

Carry on...

 

[Arfa]

I've got to agree with the last comment but in the end who cares about problems. You buy one of these cars with your heart not your head. However I'd also like to say I've had no bother with my QP and haven't spent anything on it other than consumables and servicing. Maybe I got the good un!!!!!

 

[Parisien]

Lots more good 'uns than bad 'uns Arfa......good to see......


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[Andyk]

The thing is on forums you usualy hear more about issues than the good bits and a forum is a way to info to sort your cars issue out.............When I had my TVR T350 this was the case....If you listen to all then I would have never bought one and my car was 100% reliable...........For every owner who has an issue there are 100's more that don't.....

 

[conaero]

From personal experience, the Italians usually don't get it right first time, the revised model is always much better. Let's take the 3200, a stunning car but the first ones followed the above trend. In 2001 they heavily revised the model under the skin, better steering, OBD compliant ECU and a whole host of other things. This knowledge is widely accepted and if any newb was to come on here and ask for advice, they would be made aware of this. I am not thus saying that the early 3200's are a bag of S**** far from it, all we are trying to do is pass on the benefit of a huge amount of experience.

Everybody on here are massive fans of not only Maserati but all Italian cars so I don't feel the QP advice was given in any other context than that of the 3200 above.

Again I personally have not heard of and issues with the early QP's but then again my knowledge of those cars is not experianced.

 

[dem maser]

Forums are a god send to those that are not very clued up bout these cars.....
I did some good research when i was ready to buy and yes some people on the forum where tellng me not to buy it, they were guiding me into 4200 or other cars.....
It was just their opinion, i came on it to ask questions and i have to take thier answers and respect them, but there were loads of "go for it" answers also.....

In the end i did what i wanted but having all the probs i was aware of in my mind.....saved me thousands, indie inspections, going for auto not manual etc....

Its a forum!! People have opinions, thats the point of it!! While some are bad some are good....its down to you at the end of the day....but i would always tell newbs to be careful when buying a 3200, electrical probs, TB probs etc....that doesnt mean the cars are shite, if just means that they need looking after a lot more than any other car

 

[sibradbury]

This is an interesting thread about what a forum should and shouldn't be/say.

I love the QP - not too bothered about any problems they may have, but it is too large for me to turn around on my drive so it's not feasible for me to have one. I love the 3200 - maybe they aren't the best for reliability if you talk to some folk, but so what water cooled 911 engines have cylinder liners made of cardboard and quite often go bang (2-4k rebuild anyone)? In the end I bought a GS, because I had more cash knocking around and from what I read on MF / SM they were great relaible cars which people loved to drive.

As I see it, people seem to be scared of servicing costs of Maseratis. When I owned Porsches - they used to cost me on average £2,500 per year in servicing / parts etc. I figured that a Maserati may be in the same ball park. When you come from say a normalish car like a BMW - this level of cost is seen as a nightmare. For me, it's all part of keeping a car in good working order and ensuring it drives like it should do. I hear Lambos are expensive to keep on the road - but then say 6-8k a year on a 100k car is a drop in the ocean!

I've been on other forums for subsequent cars (M3 Cutters and RS246) and I have to say neither seem to have members who are as passionate about their brand as here on SM. It makes me miss having a Maserati and I wouldn't hesitate to buy another one over and above the usual suspects.

 

[Easyplan66]

If we were only allowed to state proven facts on here there would not be many posts and it would be a very dull place to hang out.....

 

[Parisien]

Indeed Andrew.....most of what any of us know about anything has been passed on one way or another.

Depends on the source, depends on who you ask, and when indeed you ask!

QPs do seem to have improved as time has gone by and been refined and up-dated as some glitches come to light. All in all no major disasters out there and seem to be racking up the miles nicely.


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[lozcb]

It would be my guess that there are more QP's out there with higher mileages than Coup gtees /gransports


regards loz