Lovely Zonda C12S for sale.

[GransportFan1]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm yum yum.

http://www.avromotorcars.co.uk/stocklist.asp

 

[Andyk]

Colour doesn't suit it Adam...

 

[GransportFan1]

I really like the French Blue Pagani do, Silver gets a little tiring after a while.

 

[Andyk]

black, orange, white....

 

[GransportFan1]

not black, no way, orange is good though.

 

[Andyk]

Only seen one black one...but that was actually carbon fibre....Stunning.

 

[GransportFan1]

there was a blue one at Pistonheads last year, saw a silver one at MPH and that's it.

 

[Easyplan66]

Am I the only person who does not like these

 

[GransportFan1]

no your not, i love it, but the zonda is a love or loathe car. See i hate the veyron, dont respect it one little bit looks ugly and it is nothing special in my opinion.

 

[Andyk]

Am I the only person who does not like these

Yes...............

 

[2b1ask1]

no your not, i love it, but the zonda is a love or loathe car. See i hate the veyron, dont respect it one little bit looks ugly and it is nothing special in my opinion.

I have to disagree; Clarkson sumed up the Veyron perfectly it is a Concord moment in automotive engineering, we all know that manufacturers are being run increasingly by accountants and they will kill imagination. Luxury cars will fall in line with the cars for the average Johny rep.... just another silver plastic sandwich box BMW.

I hope I'm wrong and I as we all on here believe think the Italian flair for design is the strongest in the world, beautifull people designing beautifull cars, God I hope their spirit for design is never crushed.

 

[Andyk]

Completely respect the Veyron...Its one **** of an achievement...Not a fan of it though and its not a 'desirable' car in the sense a Mac F1 or Enzo is...You just have to look at prices of the 3 of them to see that..One looses money and two have gone up.

 

[GransportFan1]

it is not an achievement at all it needs 4 turbo's and a 16 cylinder engine, if you made that car a 12 cylinder and naturally aspirated like most supercars then i bet it wouldn't produce more than 550 bhp. The pagani zonda is the ultimate supercar and is a gorgeous naturally aspirated engine, 7.3 V12 from mercedes with 650 bhp. I dont like turbo engined cars, i see it as a cheat to get power, the turbo car i love is the F40, and the veyron is fugly.

 

[Andyk]

Adam its not just about the power its about actually get that power on the road and making it useable.....That is one **** of an achievement....

 

[GransportFan1]

Mclaren F1 is the better car, probably the best supercar ever made, i mean i agree bugatti have done well to make a car put that amount of power down but i will never love the veyron or respect it.

 

[Andyk]

Yes Adam F1 is my all time fav Hyper car......

 

[2b1ask1]

Much as I love the F1 I think it has realy dated unlike many of the other hyper cars - bit like the F40 did but F50 hasn't

 

[Andyk]

Do you think so...I still think it looks fresh and is the perfect size for a super car...Most got fat and heavy......F40 is still a far better looking car than the F50..Thats another bad design from Ferrari I think...

 

[GransportFan1]

The F40 looks better than ever, the F50 is a funny looking thing. I think one of the worst and ugliest supercars is the xj220, horrid from every angle.

 

[Andyk]

It wasn't when it came out Adam....Jag were making big 4 door cars and an ageing Coupe then at the motorshow the XJ220 was shown...I was there and it blew the crowd and opposition away at the time. Unfortunatly when they came to make it they watered it down and lots got their deposits back.