Sam McGoo
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I don't think you will get away with that excuse for long. Maybe add 'and I only just got it'
Or...
"It was wet and its still on Pirelli"
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"It was wet and its still on Pirelli"
In my experience they’re a crock of sh!t in anything other than warm, dry conditions. I’ll continue to buy my tyres based on personal experience and satisfaction rather than allegedly independent tests or internet gammons.
PaulCambio
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I've got rid of every set of Pirelli's on cars purchased and replaced them with PS4's.
Gazcw
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Just took them off my merc as I could not pull out of junctions without the lightest feathering of the accelerator in cold or wet. And rear stepping out on roundabouts at normal/low speed. Definitely not a cold weather tyre full stop. I would not dare push them too much in the wet either.
I did not have much confidence in LeMans with them on the strad either although it was warm enough for them.
Same
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I‘m glad I don’t need to settle for a jack-of-all-trades tyre that works well from minus 10 to plus 30, as it means it’s always a little bit mediocre. I’m far happier having a tyre that is clearly the best from about plus 5 upwards, and simply not use that car on the handful of days it’s colder than that. But of course, I accept that I am fortunate in being able to have more than one car, giving me the luxury of only having to use the Maserati(s) in good weather.
Gazcw
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I would have never put them on my daily to be fair. They came fitted all round when I bought it from Brooklands. They were fine in the summer but then it is down on power so not really a test for them.
Welcome back, Mr Spoon. Great to see another pompous, know-it-all post.
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P Zeros didnt do so well in the Evo 2021 testing in wet test sections. Wet braking , curved aquaplaning and road test not really the tyres strong points compared to the other tyres in the 2021 test.
Sure they won on the fastest wet lap but i would have thought the road tests, wet braking and curved aquaplaning test give a more accurate real world daily road use representation of the tyres strengths or weakness on UK roads.
Let hope the test driver managed to stop the car after his fastest wet lap on pzeros without hitting the kitty litter
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My own view for what it is worth is they are pretty good tyres when brand new as long as its not too cold. I have found that the drop off rate in performance at say 65% tyre life remaining downwards is quite alarming. I have always had to change them well before they get down to MOT advisory level
It would be interesting to see the same test tyres /vehicle being tested again with tyres at a third worn and see how they all fair then. I doubt the results would be the same placing for each test against the new tyres tests for the same tyres.
The vast majority of tyres on any vehicles today are part worn as that how the tyres spend 99.9% of their usable life. It would make more sense to run the tests as close to real world wear conditions to test performance than testing them when brand new.
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That’s a very good point. Testing part-worn tyres would be interesting, as just as you say, that’s effectively what we are all driving everyday.
On a different point, with P-Zero’s, it very much matters which version you have and on which car. There is not only one type of P-Zero and it’s definitely not a one-size-fits-all situation. I can well imagine some cars being mistakenly fitted with the wrong version/compound.
On a different point, with P-Zero’s, it very much matters which version you have and on which car. There is not only one type of P-Zero and it’s definitely not a one-size-fits-all situation. I can well imagine some cars being mistakenly fitted with the wrong version/compound.
Slightly back on topic, the fault was a speed sensor. All fixed under warranty, annoyingly Maserati won't release the car until the warranty company pay the bill - which sounds very dubious company policy to me, but it's fixed and hopefully I'll have it back soon (ish)
CatmanV2
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I agree, but they're refusing to budge unless I pay up front and claim back from the warranty company and as a matter of principle I refuse to do that.
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Personally I'd name and shame the dealer. And threaten them with the small claims ASAP (although nothing's going to be done in time, hopefully)
That's bang out of order. Even if the warranty company don't pay up it's still not your problem, to resolve. Clearly a pre-existing fault. I guess you could tell them they either get it back to you pronto, or you're rejecting it under SOGA.
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It's complicated because the car was bought from a Maserati dealer some distance away and the Maserati dealer doing the work is my local one.
Although both "Maserati" they're owned by different companies so have little affiliation to each other and of course neither is really taking full responsibility.
In addition the warranty the car came with has a limit of £85 p/h labour charge - so that threw a spanner in the works too. However the selling dealership have made up the shortfall, they get some credit for that.
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Hmm. I hear you, but again, the complexities are not your issue. You (IMHO) shouldn't even been claiming on the warranty. 15 minutes before it failed? Solely down to the selling dealer to rectify and deal with the remediating franchisee. This car was effectively broken on delivery (again IMHO)
I am aware that all this is simple to say from the comfort of my sofa! I truly hope you're sorted ASAP
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I totally agree with you but the feeling dealer wasn't budging and told me basically that's what the warranty was for. I'd never buy another car from them and afaik I still have the option to send it back under the distance selling act.
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