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Wack61

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Americans , still trying to justify why there are more guns in the US than people and how they should keep them

One senator who sounds like the NRA owns him is trying to say schools should only have one door guarded by an armed cop.

That doesn't sound like a great job, standing there all day bored out of your brains until a smiling kid , one of a thousand you've seen that day pulls a gun and blows you away

Every mass shooting sales of ammunition increase substantially in expectation of restrictions

What a ****** up country the US is.
 

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Americans , still trying to justify why there are more guns in the US than people and how they should keep them

One senator who sounds like the NRA owns him is trying to say schools should only have one door guarded by an armed cop.

That doesn't sound like a great job, standing there all day bored out of your brains until a smiling kid , one of a thousand you've seen that day pulls a gun and blows you away

Every mass shooting sales of ammunition increase substantially in expectation of restrictions

What a ** up country the US is.

I have given up trying to understand the American attitude here, it makes no sense why any person with half a brain can't see cause and effect - maybe that's the point
 

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Americans , still trying to justify why there are more guns in the US than people and how they should keep them

One senator who sounds like the NRA owns him is trying to say schools should only have one door guarded by an armed cop.

That doesn't sound like a great job, standing there all day bored out of your brains until a smiling kid , one of a thousand you've seen that day pulls a gun and blows you away

Every mass shooting sales of ammunition increase substantially in expectation of restrictions

What a ** up country the US is.
Completely agree, America is so regulated yet they don't know it. You can't buy a Kinder Egg in case you eat the toy, you cannot buy certain French cheeses because of the live bacteria, you can't buy a lot of sudafed in case you start a meth lab. Coffee cups with 'contents hot' labels, wing mirrors with labels saying that 'objects may appear closer'. Wouldn't allow 3200due to the rear lights. Yet you can buy an AR15 with a magazine of 20+ to do want you like. Crazy
 

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Completely agree, America is so regulated yet they don't know it. You can't buy a Kinder Egg in case you eat the toy, you cannot buy certain French cheeses because of the live bacteria, you can't buy a lot of sudafed in case you start a meth lab. Coffee cups with 'contents hot' labels, wing mirrors with labels saying that 'objects may appear closer'. Wouldn't allow 3200due to the rear lights. Yet you can buy an AR15 with a magazine of 20+ to do want you like. Crazy
A TV crew sent a 14 year old kid into 3 separate shops , p0rn, beer & cigarettes, got refused all three
Then the sent him to a gun show where he legally purchased and walked out with a .22 rifle , not an airgun or BB , an actual rifle.
 

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And to add insult to injury, these latest revelations about the police reaction throws the 'good guys with a gun' argument out of the window...


I do believe that most Americans want better gun control but the endemic corruption within US political system simply won't allow their democratic wishes to take hold.

 

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I watched the governor of Texas do a speech after the event, saying that hope over comes evil yada yada , thoughts and prayers, blah blah, thanks to emergency services ( pretty much named every government agency bar NASA!) but not once did he said how or why a kid of eighteen had an automatic weapon, or that the law needs changing.

Coward!
 

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And to add insult to injury, these latest revelations about the police reaction throws the 'good guys with a gun' argument out of the window...


Not at all surprised. The expectation of an accurate timeline immediately after the event is over optimistic IMHO. Before we even get into people's memories under stress being un-reliable at best.

I do believe that most Americans want better gun control but the endemic corruption within US political system simply won't allow their democratic wishes to take hold.


Well certainly Gallup indicates that there is a small majority in favour across the whole country. But now do the same poll in (say) Texas and see what the result is.

Gun laws can be set by a state. CA, for example has very strict laws I am given to understand, so blanket 'democratic wishes' may be a simplistic interpretation

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Gun laws can be set by a state. CA, for example has very strict laws I am given to understand, so blanket 'democratic wishes' may be a simplistic interpretation

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Not a very 'United States' then

Realistically how will they ever stop it with millions of guns in private hands.
 

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Not a very 'United States' then

Realistically how will they ever stop it with millions of guns in private hands.

One country under God but.....

I'm not sure they ever will. Certainly assuming that everyone involved is not very bright is unlikely to bring about a result of increased control. $0.02 ;)

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Wasn't this one of the many reasons for the civil war? Federal government overrules state government. It's a federation of states not a confederation.
 

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Wasn't this one of the many reasons for the civil war? Federal government overrules state government. It's a federation of states not a confederation.

No, slavery and economics were the reasons for secession. People may not have fought for those reasons but that’s what those in power thought. The Confederacy implemented pretty much the same model of government as existed in the US.
 
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