Vaccination Purpose

[Sam McGoo]

Mrs Marco and I have been on a Office of National Statistics survey scheme since COVID landed on our radar. We are tested every month with blood tests and receive feedback/results. It’s been very interesting.

After our first jab I was showing anti-bodies but Mrs M wasn’t. After the 2nd jab we both showed anti-bodies but we suspect Mrs M only really has a one jab defence. I.e. the first jab didn’t work for her. We are down to get the booster in Oc.

Neither of us have had Covid.

I would have loved to be part of something like that. I've been on immunosuppressants throughout, so would have loved to have known how effective the vaccine was for me and antibody levels etc

 

[GeoffCapes]

I read something which was interesting, albeit unsubstantiated on twitter by someone called @MI6Rogue.

Some of the stuff he or she posts is factual before it hits the public domain, some isn't.

However, I read the other week that 'tests' have shown that those who caught Covid in the first round of infections (before mutations were discovered) in Early to mid 2020 who then have been double jabbed are twice as protected as those who didn't catch it last year and have been double jabbed.

However, those who caught Covid this year and have been double jabbed have no greater protection than those who have not caught it and been double jabbed.

Make of that what you will, if of course it is correct.

 

[MarkMas]

I read something which was interesting, albeit unsubstantiated on twitter by someone called @MI6Rogue.

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I would take anything posted by someone calling themselves @MI6Rogue with two extra pinches of salt.

 

[MarkMas]

I would have loved to be part of something like that. I've been on immunosuppressants throughout, so would have loved to have known how effective the vaccine was for me and antibody levels etc

My sister is on immunosuppressants and has been double jabbed. Perhaps unsurprisingly, she seems to have no covid antibodies. Given her 'underlying conditions' she, too, is afraid to go to the supermarket, given the high infection levels and the general population's 'it's all over' attitude.

 

[GeoffCapes]

I would take anything posted by someone calling themselves @MI6Rogue with two extra pinches of salt.

Of course. But when they post stuff and it turns out to be true.....

 

[CatmanV2]

Of course. But when they post stuff and it turns out to be true.....

Even a stopped clock etc.

Anyway. My colleague who is immunosuppressed and double jabbed caught it. And was fine after a week.

'Immunisation' is not a binary 0 or 100%

C

 

[Sam McGoo]

My sister is on immunosuppressants and has been double jabbed. Perhaps unsurprisingly, she seems to have no covid antibodies. Given her 'underlying conditions' she, too, is afraid to go to the supermarket, given the high infection levels and the general population's 'it's all over' attitude.

Has she been tested for antibodies then?
It would be nice to know my actual level of protection after my two jabs early in the year.
I kind of got to the point where I decided that whatever protection I had, it was as good as it was gonna get for me and I wanted a life, so went back to work, and been trying to live as normal a life as possible, but continuing to practice good hygiene, distancing where possible, and mask wearing.
I assume I'll get a booster soonish.

 

[CatmanV2]

The level of antibodies does not necessarily indicate the level of protection, either. The immune system is far more complex than that

C

 

[MarkMas]

The level of antibodies does not necessarily indicate the level of protection, either. The immune system is far more complex than that

C

True.

Also I assume that different kinds of immune-system-supressing drugs affect the effectiveness of different vaccines to different extents, depending on how they all work.

 

[CatmanV2]

True.

Also I assume that different kinds of immune-system-supressing drugs affect the effectiveness of different vaccines to different extents, depending on how they all work.

And the only real way to measure effectiveness of a vaccine is to measure the people that have had that vaccine that then get infected.

Or do we just care about about symptomatic illness. Or hospitalisation. Or mechanical ventilation requirement. Or death.

It's a human trait to seek simple answers in a complex universe but.....

C

 

[Wack61]

Friend of a friend has just died from Covid despite being double jabbed. Don't know if he had any underlying health issues but just goes to show that you still need to be careful.

Sean Lock died of cancer at 58 , it's just a tragic fact of life unfortunately, some people eat pies, smoke 20 a day and die at 95 in their bed, others don't make it to their teens,IMO the only way forward from here is to open up but do what's right for you, hardly anyone is flying, the shops are empty or closed , if things don't go back to normal soon once the winter sets in depression is going to start taking lives.

I'm guessing many on SM are comfortably off with enough funds to ride the coming storm but imagine being 25 with your first house and a 200k mortgage that take 2 salaries to pay it , those are the people I'm worried about , the ones starting out on life with this kick in the nuts hanging over them.

I think it's a done deal in any case, I can't see the government trying any more lockdowns