You can watch TV whilst driving

[CatmanV2]

But then computers are programmed by humans.....

And they will absolutely make mistakes.

I feel this could all end with Skynet sending a Terminator!

Yep, sure could

C

 

[Gooner]

But then computers are programmed by humans.....

Not completely, not any more. Humans write the AI code, but the AI then learns itself how to navigate a road. A human being doesn’t programme in every type of road marking and hazard, the AI learns what is safe and what isn’t by repeatedly driving on real and virtual roads, then develops rules.

Some of the rules an AI develops would never have been conceived by a human.

I’m not trying to be pedantic, just explaining how one day the AIs will be better drivers than humans. They are already better at some tasks, e.g. interpreting some medical scans.

 

[CatmanV2]

Not completely, not any more. Humans write the AI code, but the AI then learns itself how to navigate a road. A human being doesn’t programme in every type of road marking and hazard, the AI learns what is safe and what isn’t by repeatedly driving on real and virtual roads, then develops rules.

Some of the rules an AI develops would never have been conceived by a human.

I’m not trying to be pedantic, just explaining how one day the AIs will be better drivers than humans. They are already better at some tasks, e.g. interpreting some medical scans.

Chess, Bridge, Go.....

But therein lies another potential issue in that humans do not always understand the rules and therefore may make a different mistake in thinking because it's good in all the conceivable circumstances, it's good in all....

C

 

[Gooner]

Good point.

Chess and Bridge have a finite set of scenarios, although it’s relatively recently that computers got better than people at chess (arguably).

Go is a bit different, I gather learning Go is more like what AIs have to do when they learn about real world tasks like driving.

Not really my expertise, but I’ve done some work with AIs, quite amazing what is already possible. The rate of improvement is increasing all the time as well. Eventually AIs will develop better AIs than we can.

 

[CatmanV2]

Bridge have a finite set of scenarios

Not when you start bidding, I am given to understand. But know very little about bridge.

Not really my expertise, but I’ve done some work with AIs, quite amazing what is already possible

Currently working on financial compliance using AI processing of voice and text based communications. Nothing like as exciting as self driving cars, mind!

C

 

[Gooner]

Sounds cool

 

[keith]

I think it's a great step in the right direction. Who wants to waster their time sitting in a traffic jam, when they can concentrate on something more interesting.
The fact is, this new proposal will really only apply to vehicles stuck in traffic, in normal driving where your turning left or right, stopping at lights etc etc will still require input.
What I would say, is the time is coming where the car will be a transportation module requiring no input at all. People will wonder in amazement how we used to have to hold something called a 'steering wheel' and push pedals to make the 'module' move!!!

 

[CatmanV2]

I think it's a great step in the right direction. Who wants to waster their time sitting in a traffic jam, when they can concentrate on something more interesting.
The fact is, this new proposal will really only apply to vehicles stuck in traffic, in normal driving where your turning left or right, stopping at lights etc etc will still require input.
What I would say, is the time is coming where the car will be a transportation module requiring no input at all. People will wonder in amazement how we used to have to hold something called a 'steering wheel' and push pedals to make the 'module' move!!!

And wonder at the insanity of allowing barely trained idiots to have a few hours of tuition and then take charge of a 2 ton machine capable of 100+ mph....

C

 

[Wack61]

If you are wearing a Maserati shirt when you get into a Tesla, should the car be allowed to sulk until you get changed?

The problems are endless...

If you own a car and branded clothing that matches it should just lock you out until you get changed.

 

[lozcb]

I think it's a great step in the right direction. Who wants to waster their time sitting in a traffic jam, when they can concentrate on something more interesting.
The fact is, this new proposal will really only apply to vehicles stuck in traffic, in normal driving where your turning left or right, stopping at lights etc etc will still require input.
What I would say, is the time is coming where the car will be a transportation module requiring no input at all. People will wonder in amazement how we used to have to hold something called a 'steering wheel' and push pedals to make the 'module' move!!!

We have them now ....there called busses and trains and taxis .......................in my prehistoric mind there is absolutely no need for this , bit like space exploration ................as humans we do it because we can ...............like climbing mountains ....................but it serves no real purpose but costs a lot of money, time and effort which could be better spent elsewhere

 

[keith]

We have them now ....there called busses and trains and taxis .......................in my prehistoric mind there is absolutely no need for this , bit like space exploration ................as humans we do it because we can ...............like climbing mountains ....................but it serves no real purpose but costs a lot of money, time and effort which could be better spent elsewhere

The topic of public transport over private car ownership is an altogether different discussion, but one that Sadiq Khan would certainly agree with, except where he's concerned of course, he uses a chauffeur driven Range Rover.
What you said in your last sentence encapsulates the whole advantage of such technology. Wouldn't your time in a traffic jam be better spent doing something more productive than looking at the back of the vehicle in front waiting for it to move?

 

[keith]

And wonder at the insanity of allowing barely trained idiots to have a few hours of tuition and then take charge of a 2 ton machine capable of 100+ mph....

C

That's the other thing future generations will look upon with amazement. 'You mean you actually had to be taught and take a test before getting in your transport module!'

 

[MarkMas]

That's the other thing future generations will look upon with amazement. 'You mean you actually had to be taught and take a test before getting in your transport module!'

I think it will be:
"You mean you could propel a lethal projectile at 60 miles per hour or more, only inches away from other people doing the same, with only a few hours of training and a 40-minute test?"

If driving was invented tomorrow, you would need to go on 90 days of full-time training and take a one-day test before you became a probationer.

 

[safrane]

I think you require nothing [test etc] to buy yourself a Fiberglas water mounted projectile and bomb around the shore and sea at a fair lick in the UK!

At least on the Italian Lakes you need a licence for anything above a 'put-put' tourist day boat.