Assetto Corsa for sale at Autofficina

hodroyd

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Phil,
So is it a new bonnet and grille repair, or worse..?? I take it that it is a bit scruffy..??
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R
 

Phil H

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The bonnet is ok except for an unrelated dimple from a stone or something. However, the grille and bumper are deformed, and whilst the latter might be fixable a replacement would be my preferred option. The car needs lots of tlc and some £'s spent, hence the price.

PH
 
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alfatwo

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David Aswith's 2001 AC versus my 2001 3200GT..as you can imagine iv'e driven both cars,he has a fairly new engine,mines only done 23,000 mls...

The AC's is a lot harsher on the road with its stiffer springs and front roll bar....the steering feels exactly the same as mine though,different steering rack ratio,Im not sure, maybe its only the earlier cars...

Except for the odd occasion like a track day, a good 3200GT is as fast and far easier to live with in the real world than a Asseto Corsa!.. The "Max Power Type" alloy pedels also look out of place in a top class Maser...

Price wise the limited edition will always command higher resale values. but that doesen't mean to say its a better car!

Dave
 
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hodroyd

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Phil,
I still think that the price should be lower due to the damage, a new front end is not cheap and a repaint of the front is on top..!!
Dave,
The standard GT is a great car, no question. The late 2001/02 AC's were generally improved with suspension settings, gear ratio's I think, improved brakes, better steering rack and vastly improved throttle operation, with larger anti-roll bars. They are maybe slightly harder in sport due to the lowered suspension, but cornering ability is phenominal. They are a different drive to the standard GT and it depeends what you are looking for.
Cheers
R
 

Andyk

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David Aswith's 2001 AC versus my 2001 3200GT..as you can imagine iv'e driven both cars,he has a fairly new engine,mines only done 23,000 mls...

The AC's is a lot harsher on the road with its stiffer springs and front roll bar....the steering feels exactly the same as mine though,different steering rack ratio,Im not sure, maybe its only the earlier cars...

Except for the odd occasion like a track day, a good 3200GT is as fast and far easier to live with in the real world than a Asseto Corsa!.. The "Max Power Type" alloy pedels also look out of place in a top class Maser...

Price wise the limited edition will always command higher resale values. but that doesen't mean to say its a better car!

Dave

Dave, I have also driven both 3200 and 3200 AC back to back when I was looking for a 3200....The AC I drove felt quicker, better planted and handled better.....for me it was a better car and def set up for the press on driver. Both were manual cars.......I also thought the interior with the red piping looked perfect and the pedals didn't seem out of place to be honest.....Just my thought on what I drove......The 3200 AC for me will also be worth more than a standard car.....
 

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Naturally i agree with the 2 gentleman above this post



The GT is a great car but its not as good as the AC.....

You get suspension upgrades and it handles a lot better than the GT, for me the interior is lovely and understated and the pedals set the interior off.....
 

Andyk

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Agree Dem...but ou know that.....Great car and all the better for the editions over the standard car.
 

mjheathcote

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Phil,
I still think that the price should be lower due to the damage, a new front end is not cheap and a repaint of the front is on top..!!
Dave,
The standard GT is a great car, no question. The late 2001/02 AC's were generally improved with suspension settings, gear ratio's I think, improved brakes, better steering rack and vastly improved throttle operation, with larger anti-roll bars. They are maybe slightly harder in sport due to the lowered suspension, but cornering ability is phenominal. They are a different drive to the standard GT and it depeends what you are looking for.
Cheers
R

How does your 3200AC compare to your 4200 regarding ride quality, road holding, body roll?
 

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Have updated "the" list with No 47 details. That's 42 of them we know of, which matches the amount DVLA has registered or SORN'd. Wonder where the other 33 are? A few exported, and a handful written off, ( Eurospares broke two.)
 

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Have updated "the" list with No 47 details. That's 42 of them we know of, which matches the amount DVLA has registered or SORN'd. Wonder where the other 33 are? A few exported, and a handful written off, ( Eurospares broke two.)

Yes, 33 un-accounted for does seem high & a bit of a mystery. Can we see the updated list with #47 included? It will be interesting to see what is left here as far as colours and transmissions go and which cars are owned by forum members, cheers
 

allandwf

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Updated with the latest ones recently for sale.
# Colour Gearbox Note
1 Silver Manual
2
3 Red Auto
4
5 Black Auto
6
7
8 Red Auto
9 Red Manual
10
11 Red Auto
12
13 Red Manual (in Australia)
14
15 Red Auto
16 Silver Auto
17 Black
18 Black
19
20 Black auto
21
22 Red Manual
23
24
25
26
27 Black Auto
28
29 Black Auto
30 Black Auto
31 Black Auto ( in Australia.)
32
33
34 Black Auto ( Australia.)
35 Black Auto
36 Silver Manual
37
38 Silver
39
40 Black Manual
41 Red Manual
42
43 Red Manual
44
45
46 Silver Manual
47 Silver Auto

48
49
50 Silver Auto (in Australia)
51 Red Manual
52 Silver Manual
53
54 Silver Manual (possibly wrecked?)
55
56
57 Silver
58 Silver Auto
59
60 Black Manual
61 Black
62
63 Silver
64 Silver Manual
65
66 Black Manual
67
68 Red Auto
69
70 Black Manual
71
72 Red Manual (in Australia)
73
74 Silver Manual
75 Silver Auto Carbon Kit
 

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Mike,
To answer your question earlier. Both cars are great in their own way and a slightly different drive to each other. The AC had a really good test when we joined the SMF Monte Carlo or Bust run, last year. This covered all road types and we were pushing quite hard. The AC was brilliant and kept up with everybody, no problem. Performance on twisty back roads flat out was outstanding, cornering was 1st class taking "S" bends easily at around 70mph. I said we were pushing..!! The car did not miss a beat and was comfortable the whole trip.
The 4200 so far has not done such a long trip, only a few hundred miles at a time. There is a difference, still a firm ride and well planted in sport, I do need to drop the suspension a few mm, as there is a fraction more roll compared to the AC, but not much. The 4200 feels heavier and more planted on motorways. Power wise the 4200 is fractionally faster, but the acceleration is different. The AC when the turbo's come in is manic, the 4200 is smooth power right through the curve. The 4200 is comfortable just like the AC. A few more little gismo's on the 4200, the satnav is a laugh a minute.
It is quite hard to say which is the better car, as they both have their attributes and are a slightly different drive to each other. I think I would say that the 4200 just has it's head in front, but not by far. I do like the CC box in the 4200, changes in sport are lightening fast and the power is smooth. 0-60 is a touch better in the 4200.
It's a very close call though.

Cheers
R
 

allandwf

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Is there any difference in the mid range acceleration? or just in the way it is delivered? AC has slightly more torque, but then will have a slight lag, I would expect them to be similar in times.
 

mjheathcote

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Thanks Rob, just curious to how the AC compared to the 4200, with the AC having a slightly difference suspension set up compared to the standard 3200.
 
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hodroyd

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Allan,
Mid range is slightly different. The 4200 get's off a bit faster, the 3200 has to wait a short time for the turbo's to spool up. If they were side by side at say 30mph, then in the same gears the two cars floored it, it would be touch and go between the two. The 4200 with the CC box might just score higher hitting 7500 rpm in every gear flat out, but it would be close.
Mike,
I would say the AC is as well planted as the 4200 and the ride is very similar in sport. The AC is a bit better than the standard GT when you get in to hard driving, it just sticks to the road like glue, very impressed.
Cheers
R
 

hodroyd

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Dem,
I agree, on the Monte Carlo Trip, I was really impressed. On the twisty back roads we were all following Miles in his GS and the AC had little trouble keeping up and we were caning it. On the motorway we were up to 165 in places, still no issues at all. The handling pack on the AC is well worth the extra over the standard car..!!
The AC is lower on the road than the 4200, that's why I want the 4200 dropping a bit, I think it will improve it.
Cheers
R