Thanks Ewan.
I respect your opinion and although I disagree with you on the QP I definitely agree with you regarding the Lamborghini.
The rapide also seems good value to me with cars now starting at about 60k.
Ghibli S or 2009-2012 Quattroporte Sport GT S ???
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Thanks Ewan.
I respect your opinion and although I disagree with you on the QP I definitely agree with you regarding the Lamborghini.
The rapide also seems good value to me with cars now starting at about 60k.
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The QP is a 4 door practical 4 seater; the Rapide is a 2+2. I was very surprised by the back seats of the Rapide when I tried it - very claustrophobic, tiny windows, no room at all either side, no decent leg room. I had great difficulty getting in and out the back easily (and I'm only average height); if you or your family are tall you'd really not want to be in there for a long journey. No contest as far as I am concerned, the QP every time, you could happily go across Europe as a rear passenger..You definitely need to try the Rapide if that's a consideration, to see if you feel the same. They haven't sold well and I think that's one reason.
Yes I believe you are quite correct about the rapide and it's drawbacks.
I recently had my first child and plan on more so size of the children is irrelevant for now but if I have a 3rd child the rapide will become useless so I'm leaning heavily in favour of the QP GT S. Harry metcalfe of evo reviewed the rapide and said his granturismo had much more rear room albeit with two less doors.
As I've said before one of the great attractions of the QP GT S to me is it's practicality coupled with its unique style and character.
Can anybody think of another saloon (past and present) with this much style and fun to be had driving it ?
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just looking at whats for sale....This is the cheapest...Just below 40k....So trade value must be a few k lower...This one does look well specced mind you..Smaller wheelh...but it is a D and most S cars are lots more than that.....There are a few under 45k...so again trade must be closer to 40k...
http://www2.autotrader.co.uk/classi...had/used,nearlynew,new/model/ghibli?logcode=p
http://www2.autotrader.co.uk/search...esearchad/used,nearlynew,new/quicksearch/true
http://www2.autotrader.co.uk/classi...had/used,nearlynew,new/model/ghibli?logcode=p
http://www2.autotrader.co.uk/search...esearchad/used,nearlynew,new/quicksearch/true
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Yes, but my point is when trying to help inform the OPs choice between a GTS and a Ghibli S, it is ridiculous and completely unhelpful to be quoting trade figures for a Ghibli D. Of course a base Ghibli D that sold at £50k is going to trade at £40k after 6 months. You get there by just taking the VAT off.
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Why not?
Because with all due respect to diesel drivers I'm not looking for an everyday car and I am not concerned at all about fuel consumption. I want a car that feels special every time I get in it.
What would everyone choose between a rapide and a QP Sport GT S or is there another high powered 4 door saloon alternative that you guys prefer ?
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There's a diesel at Graypaul for £39,850, cheapest 'S' is £60k.
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For me it would be the QP..... finding a good one in the right spec and colour will be a challenge though..
But if you go the Ghibli route then drive a very hard bargain...
I've never heard of anyone ever paying list price - or even ticket price for a new / nearly new Maserati... all dealers in my experience are prepared to offer decent discounts....
The cars are made to order - and dealers order in stock cars, quite a few of which are sold as "used cars" a few months later.... As dealers register these - they are particularly vulnerable to a deal at the time the number plates trip over to the next year..
Though its some time ago now when I bought my 4200 cambia corsa from Maranello they had a number of stock cars - which they only discussed after I'd told them i was off to Graypaul to buy one of theirs.. I ended up with a choice of 6 vehicles in various colours and bought one ... had I specced it up and paid list + options the price of the car would have been £72,500.... I paid £48,000 for it.... with just 81 miles on the clock... and 2 weeks before the 03 plate tripped over to 04...
Very recently done much the same thing with an Alfa Mito... "used car" with just 10 miles on it.. registered 6 months ago.. £17k list... £12,900 paid..
There are enough Ghibli S cars swilling around the dealer network for you to get precisely the colour / spec you want... and I dare say the rest is like the essence of great comedy ..... timing... When these guys need to hit a quarter end target or plates change - there are deals to be done..
Ridgeway at Oxford have just set up a new dealership (not formally opened yet) ... but Steve there seems highly motivated to move some metal... so If I was in the market I'd have a chat with him first... see what he's got out the back still wrapped up but registered and very shortly will look like its a year old ..
But if you go the Ghibli route then drive a very hard bargain...
I've never heard of anyone ever paying list price - or even ticket price for a new / nearly new Maserati... all dealers in my experience are prepared to offer decent discounts....
The cars are made to order - and dealers order in stock cars, quite a few of which are sold as "used cars" a few months later.... As dealers register these - they are particularly vulnerable to a deal at the time the number plates trip over to the next year..
Though its some time ago now when I bought my 4200 cambia corsa from Maranello they had a number of stock cars - which they only discussed after I'd told them i was off to Graypaul to buy one of theirs.. I ended up with a choice of 6 vehicles in various colours and bought one ... had I specced it up and paid list + options the price of the car would have been £72,500.... I paid £48,000 for it.... with just 81 miles on the clock... and 2 weeks before the 03 plate tripped over to 04...
Very recently done much the same thing with an Alfa Mito... "used car" with just 10 miles on it.. registered 6 months ago.. £17k list... £12,900 paid..
There are enough Ghibli S cars swilling around the dealer network for you to get precisely the colour / spec you want... and I dare say the rest is like the essence of great comedy ..... timing... When these guys need to hit a quarter end target or plates change - there are deals to be done..
Ridgeway at Oxford have just set up a new dealership (not formally opened yet) ... but Steve there seems highly motivated to move some metal... so If I was in the market I'd have a chat with him first... see what he's got out the back still wrapped up but registered and very shortly will look like its a year old ..
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I hate to raise the boring subject of boot space on a Maser forum but the Ghibli looks a much better bet for day-to-day usefulness as a family wagon; the boot is considerably bigger than the QP V's modest offering, and more importantly the rear seats fold which makes it much more versatile.
I know many own their Maseratis as 2nd, 3rd, or whatever-th cars, I know another QP V owner who recently bought a £1,000 Scenic purely to haul some stuff around, but I only have parking for one car and I do find the QP V's boot restrictive.
That's right I do not want to even consider a diesel
I will have to get the official made to measure maserati luggage then !