It Needs More Cowbell!

Oneball

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I don’t know why but for some reason this thread reminded me of this, I must be in a festive mood.

 

Alan Surrey

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I do feel a bit disappointed with this and previous governments. Perhaps others do too, so that is why so few turn out to vote.
Here are a few off the cuff reasons.
Partygate
Destaffing the foreign office to the point where it can't cope with evacuating Afghanistan, or even processing applications made 6 months earlier.
Destaffing the NHS to the point where every hospital in the land has to work up its emergency plans to deal with "winter pressures" even though every sixth former knows they should be sized to cope with that as baseload.
Why don't we have enough doctors? they know it takes 10 years to train one.
Grenfell/building standards to keep us safe.
Where did all the North Sea oil go?
And the gas?
How come we used to generate all our own electricity but now we have to import from France?
How did government policy and plans allow us to walk into a situation where we depend on gas from Mr Putin?
How did RAF assets dwindle from Canberras, Vulcans, Victors, Lightnings and more, to Typhoons and a couple of dozen F35s
....But we will get tax cuts just before the next election.

It all makes me feel that government ministers have forgotten to minister to the people they are appointed to minister to.
Perhaps we should all have another chocolate sherbert.
 

MarkMas

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I do feel a bit disappointed with this and previous governments. Perhaps others do too, so that is why so few turn out to vote.
Here are a few off the cuff reasons.
Partygate
Destaffing the foreign office to the point where it can't cope with evacuating Afghanistan, or even processing applications made 6 months earlier.
Destaffing the NHS to the point where every hospital in the land has to work up its emergency plans to deal with "winter pressures" even though every sixth former knows they should be sized to cope with that as baseload.
Why don't we have enough doctors? they know it takes 10 years to train one.
Grenfell/building standards to keep us safe.
Where did all the North Sea oil go?
And the gas?
.........


I'll just pick up one of these, as I am still fairly sober....

I'm not sure where the 'de-staffing the foreign office' theory comes from, but there is also a school of thought that the problem with the urgent Afghanistan issues was NOT that the foreign office was understaffed, but that the staff lacked the will to step up to do the job that was needed, as they had become rather too comfortable.

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midlifecrisis

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I do feel a bit disappointed with this and previous governments. Perhaps others do too, so that is why so few turn out to vote.
Here are a few off the cuff reasons.
Partygate
Destaffing the foreign office to the point where it can't cope with evacuating Afghanistan, or even processing applications made 6 months earlier.
Destaffing the NHS to the point where every hospital in the land has to work up its emergency plans to deal with "winter pressures" even though every sixth former knows they should be sized to cope with that as baseload.
Why don't we have enough doctors? they know it takes 10 years to train one.
Grenfell/building standards to keep us safe.
Where did all the North Sea oil go?
And the gas?
How come we used to generate all our own electricity but now we have to import from France?
How did government policy and plans allow us to walk into a situation where we depend on gas from Mr Putin?
How did RAF assets dwindle from Canberras, Vulcans, Victors, Lightnings and more, to Typhoons and a couple of dozen F35s
....But we will get tax cuts just before the next election.

It all makes me feel that government ministers have forgotten to minister to the people they are appointed to minister to.
Perhaps we should all have another chocolate sherbert.
I'll take the RAF one, no cold war. Valiants, Vulcans and Victor became vulnerable to SAM missiles, so had to fly low to avoid radar. Only the Vulcan could fly low without ripping itself apart. So Valiants retired and Victors became tankers. Tornadoes could do low flying better as they were purposely designed for such. BAe adjusted the design and the fighter variant retired the lightning with 9Sqns in the early 90's. These in turn were superceded by the Typhoon. Canberra's became photo reconnaissance, we now have drones and satellites.
Technology moves on, many of the drone strikes were piloted from RAF Waddington which from a H&S point of view much safer!
 
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It's not Life imitating Art, it is Art very brilliantly imitating Life. Both The Thick of It and Yes Minister are basically brilliantly-drawn documentaries of current reality not creative predictions of some sort of dystopian future.
I wasn't going to rise to this, but there are too many mistakes.
Both television series are satire using the medium of television.
Therefore they are light entertainment. Or, an art form.
Documentaries, they were not.
In saying that life is imitating art, I was obviously paraphrasing Oscar Wilde,
as I was suggesting that current events were imitating art forms in the past
and creating similar emotions.
Perhaps it was remiss of me to also mention the metaphor of a rabbit hole.
However, I did feel that my meaning was clear. Obviously not clear enough.
Taken from Alice in Wonderland. When Alice falls into the rabbit hole, she
enters an alternate world of some absurdity. Rather apt, I thought.
I trust this clarifies.
 

MarkMas

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I wasn't going to rise to this, but there are too many mistakes.
Mistakes?

Both television series are satire using the medium of television.
Therefore they are light entertainment. Or, an art form.
Documentaries, they were not.
I knew that.

In saying that life is imitating art, I was obviously paraphrasing Oscar Wilde,
as I was suggesting that current events were imitating art forms in the past
and creating similar emotions.
Yup, got it the first time.

Perhaps it was remiss of me to also mention the metaphor of a rabbit hole.
However, I did feel that my meaning was clear. Obviously not clear enough.
Taken from Alice in Wonderland. When Alice falls into the rabbit hole, she
enters an alternate world of some absurdity. Rather apt, I thought.
Yup, yup. Got it.

I trust this clarifies.
Sure, why not?

:p
 

BennyD

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Well Said it's an absolute shambles what's going.
Getting into a comfy chair ready for PM's Questions here.

Having deserted the UK, what the f*ck has it got to do with you? You'd be better off concentrating on the the bastardised machinations of the fuckwits you've chosen to represent you in a foreign land.
 

philw696

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Having deserted the UK, what the f*ck has it got to do with you? You'd be better off concentrating on the the bastardised machinations of the fuckwits you've chosen to represent you in a foreign land.
I still have a British passport until I get my French one ;)
 

Gazcw

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Are any of the previous PM been any better?
Getting boring now. Lying about it is not good, but media seem to say the rest of the UK were locked up and no-one had a meeting, gathering, celebration they weren't meant to? BS.