SUV Which one ???

hodroyd

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I was looking at those too, they seemed quite good, some of the early ones seemed troublesome in some ways, but they looked a good car..!!
 

EXCF350

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I was looking at a couple, no engine rebuilds as far as I know, one has only done 53K..!! They are cheap enough, but I can't stand unreliable..!! I need it for livestock and their food straw collection if required and for running my dog up and down, the Masser does not work for this..!! The jeep I had nicked was ideal, 5.7L Hemi, pull plenty, big load area and go anywhere..!! It was expensive to run at 12 mpg, I suppose that's why the ex wants it for her shopping trips...?????? Pathetic eh..???
No matter I just need to buy something else at reasonable money, but it has to keep running..!!
We've got a new style Ford Ranger double cab pickup for the same reasons as you. So much better than the old one we had previously. I've been happily using it for the last few weeks for traveling between Edinburgh and Nottingham and getting 30mpg.
 

hodroyd

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That might be an idea, could I get the dog inside though, he is quite tall and a 9st Rhodesian Ridgeback. He would have to be inside in this cold weather..!!
 

Bourekoue

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We have a 4.4 V8 Volvo XC90 and like it a lot, the new XC90 looks superb and would be very hard to beat from a safety point of view. I believe that nobody died in a crash in Sweden in a current model XC90 for the first 10 years after its launch and the new one is a big improvement. They are quite big though.
Yes I really like the look of the new xc90 but it's very pricey and a bit too big.
 

Bourekoue

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I'm hunting to, but for a different reason and for a much lower price, I just need a 4x4 for caring for my livestock and taking the dog in, my ex, stole the Jeep Commander I had from the garage one day when I was out, nice eh..!!
I feel for you. No offence but sounds like you are better off divorced.
 

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We went to test drive a Discovery Sport and it was dreadful! The 2.2 older diesel engine vibrates like ****. We ended up buying a RRS which we picked up on 1st March and So far it has been fantastic! I've owned various X5s, a Q7 and a Cayenne Diesel and this is by far the best of the lot! Have not dropped below 32mpg since last Sunday too :)

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Bourekoue

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We went to test drive a Discovery Sport and it was dreadful! The 2.2 older diesel engine vibrates like ****. We neded up picking this RRS up on the 1st March and So far it has been fantastic! I've owened various X5s, a Q7 and a Cayenne and this is by far the best of the lot! Have not dropped below 32mpg since last Sunday too :)View attachment 27160

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Interesting comments about the discovery sport,as I said the engine is due to be replaced later in the year.apart from the old 2.2 diesel engine was there anything else you didn't like on it ?
By all accounts your RRS is a great car but again it appears quite pricey.
If you don't mind me asking how much did it cost you and what engine did you go for ?
 

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I test drove a discovery sport that was £50k and pretty much fully loaded and it in no way felt like a £50k car! It is basically a freelander with 7 seats. There is a lot of plastic inside and it does not have the ambience of a £50k car. The diesel clatter is terrible and whilst waiting at a traffic light I could feel it through the steering wheel. The 7 seats is what will sell this car but for me it will always be a 7 seater freelander.

Yes the RRS is more expensive but it's worth it IMHO. Each to their own - there are some that love the disco sport :)
 

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Robert - the 3l v6 Touareg is a good car. A decent one can be had for £9-10k or so. Maybe too much for animal lugging?

MCS - I do like the new RRS, I hope it proves more reliable than the outgoing models. Fingers crossed! I nearly bought a Cayenne Diesel but went for another Touareg instead as it's the same car essentially but for less cash. I also think it looks better (old shape now, Altitude model). The new Cayenne looks nice too.
 

Bourekoue

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New cayenne does look a lot better than the previous shape due to inheriting some design cues from the macan.
I also like the look of the Range Rover but they start at 60k which is way out of my price range.
When do you think we can start to see new shape range rovers around the 40k mark ?
 

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The new RRS compared to the old one is like comparing a GTS to a 3200 :) New technology new car - I hope so too.

The cayenne was great but the RRS is a better car all round especially when you see videos like this to show what it's capable of !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGNGrK7TSh8
 

mcs

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New cayenne does look a lot better than the previous shape due to inheriting some design cues from the macan.
I also like the look of the Range Rover but they start at 60k which is way out of my price range.
When do you think we can start to see new shape range rovers around the 40k mark ?

At least another 12-18 months I would say. Early HSEs are selling for £62k which is the list price for a new HsE! Crazy that. There is still a 5 month waiting list even after the car has been out for 18 months so values are tight for now.
 

hodroyd

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Excellent video, the bow wave makes it look a bit more nervy than it probably was, but good all the same, nowhere to go if the car stopped mind..!!
 

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Mixed experiences with Land Rover products from the posts obviously but just to give some balance my experience has been on the whole positive. I had a previous model Range Rover 02 reg V8 petrol, bought second hand from a LR main dealer at 3 years old, kept it for 9 years and 70K miles and it never let me down or had any problems other than once with a failed diff (a known problem, fixed at LR cost). Had a V8 Disco before that from new which was also reliable over 10 years. Traded the RR for the new model RR and love that too, same so far no problems.
 

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FWIW... Our 55 plate Disco 3 has done 100k now... juicy on diesel - but everything else has been brilliant... very few issues - maintained from new by an indie - EGR valves removed when they went at about 80k.. other than that cost v little to keep going ..Far better than the Merc ML we had before it.... If we lost it tomorrow - i'd just buy another one...
 

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I think many of the reliability issues for the Ranger Rovers centre around the diesel engines, which have a number of known issues. The petrol engines are much more reliable albeit somewhat thirsty. I bought my 4.2l Supercharged First Edition RRS nearly 7 years ago when it was 3 years old, so coming up for its 10th birthday and it has been fabulous, a truly amazing piece of kit. The only thing that has gone wrong is the air suspension compressor and a few associated parts and a replacement lower wishbone and track rod. These are all known wear items and typically need replacing around the 60k mile mark, which was the case for me. Replacement parts are more robust and so should last longer. Other than that it has been rock solid and goes incredibly well for something that weights nearly 3 tonnes!

For me there is no comparison to a Volvo, which while very comfortable has nothing like the performance or the off road ability. A Cayenne is better build and finished and a Turbo would certainly leave me struggling to keep up on road, but off road and in really poor weather/snow, the Sport would come in to its own. We drove back from France this February half term in a blizzard and due to a blocked French Autoroute went via Switzerland. At one point we were on a two lane road with 4 wheel drive Audi drivers, both A4/6 and Q7 struggling with snow chains to get up the hill, the RRS didn't even break sweat. When we were the only car we saw for miles on a very snow covered road the RRS felt completely stable and in control, I am not sure a Cayenne or much else would have made such easy and quick progress.

For me I cannot ever imagine selling my Sport, it is very comfortable, has seriously impressive performance, handles reasonably well given its weight, and will go just about anywhere. Plus it is built like a tank and feels very safe. Second hand the first gen Sports are now starting to look like very good value, just make sure it has been serviced properly and the suspension been sorted and you should be good to go!
 

Andyk

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Really like the Macun ... Looks good and goes well...That Alfa looks pretty....Is that comeing out.
 

Bourekoue

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Really like the Macun ... Looks good and goes well...That Alfa looks pretty....Is that comeing out.

no release date for alfa SUV yet,maybe 2016.
No price yet and no other details.
Mules have been spotted testing.
 

Bourekoue

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The macan drives superbly but is quite expensive,also everything is extra and they are pricey extras too.