Wanted - Fromula Dynamics Drive By Wire

[lozcb]

Thanks Loz, will do. I will let you know how I get on on thursday.

They will tell you Ian that the manual advice on Pis settings are 4.7 through to 5.1 , 4.7 being more aggressive or less lazy than 5.1 , Fezza 430's are set at 3.9 thru to 4.3 and so is mine , any lower apparently on Massers and the software has difficulty coping tho i havent tried it any lower than 4.3


regards loz

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[BennyD]

I take it you haven't had any problems at 4.3. Does it make a noticeable difference from 4.7 - 5.3?

 

[ENZ525]

Hope you don't mind me asking, but what would changing the PIS setting from say 5.0 to 4.3 do to the clutch wear reading?
I know it is only a guide anyway...but would it alter it?

 

[BennyD]

TBH Enzo, I don't see how it matters. A clutch will start slipping when it starts slipping whatever the reading. All I know is; the quicker the clutch engages the less wear there will be and the punchier the car will feel.

 

[Parisien]

I think they can be fiddled with to gave a more favourable reading from what I can recall.....



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[BennyD]

I don't take any notice of my reading. I'll thrash it until the clutch wears out, get it fixed and thrash it again. It's all part of the game!

 

[lozcb]

I don't take any notice of my reading. I'll thrash it until the clutch wears out, get it fixed and thrash it again. It's all part of the game!

Thank god i wasn't born a good looking hooker in your neighboughhood hahahahha i'd be sore for weeks

 

[Parisien]

....Loz...that truly is thread drift of epic proportions..............is it the Baileys or the cold weather.....we are all ears....old chap.....


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[BennyD]

So Loz, moving swiftly away from your nocturnal fantasies, does the drop to 4.3 from 4.7 - 5.3 make much difference?

 

[lozcb]

Really difficult for me to say , The only way to really tell is two have 2 identical cars with identical clutch wear and one operating at the normal minimum of 4.7 and the other at 4.3 , where ive come from is that my old clutch was on its last legs , had the 4.3 pis adjustment set from day one the new clutch was fitted , they run the car for 20 miles to bed it in at a PIS setting of 4.7 , then the car was taken back into the work shop and re set to 4.3 , tech said there was a marked difference , all i know was that the difference was chalk and cheese from before


regards loz

 

[BennyD]

Cheers Loz, I'll ask Marios to drop it down and we will see what happens!

 

[Geofflyn]

Correct Ian , all done by Sd2/3 at the click of the mouse , i would allow time for a test drive so you can check its all ok before you set off from Marios, give him my regards by the way



regards loz

Loz I have only just installed the DBW a couple of months ago but did I read somewhere that you should disconnect it (put the blank/plug in) when you take the car in for service or PIS as it impacts the Sd2/3 readings?
Geoff

 

[toomanyhorses]

Correct Ian , all done by Sd2/3 at the click of the mouse , i would allow time for a test drive so you can check its all ok before you set off from Marios, give him my regards by the way



regards loz

Excuse my ignorance, Loz, but is this something that can be done without the FD DBW installed?

The reason I ask is that my car 'seems' to slip in first and second, or rather, it would be explained better by saying that it appears to take too long to engage fully, less so in sport, but still changes are too.... languid.

I phoned the independent I've used and he emailed me a 'clutch release solenoid reset procedure' to try. I did this, and it has made it considerably worse. It changes rapidly at high revs as it should, but reeaaalllly slowly at low revs and speed, as if the clutch is slipping, though I'm not sure it is the clutch. There's certainly no chance of a quite take off! Andy would no doubt explain what it is doing far better than I, as unfortunately for him he had it after the reset, (and I haven't wanted to drive it since it's return on Saturday for fear of getting it dirty! Andy detailed it for me, looks fantastic!)

I've an appointment with DL's tomorrow for a clutch wear reading. It doesn't jump out of gear, neither does it slip once in gear. Can I ask the dealer do the PIS adjustment, I guess is what I need to know?

 

[toomanyhorses]

This thread is now much more interesting than my previous request. If no one pipes along with one for sale ill give Noor a ring PI.

If you haven't already, a group buy may be a possibility, as I will be after one v soon too, and maybe others.......?

 

[lozcb]

Excuse my ignorance, Loz, but is this something that can be done without the FD DBW installed?

The reason I ask is that my car 'seems' to slip in first and second, or rather, it would be explained better by saying that it appears to take too long to engage fully, less so in sport, but still changes are too.... languid.

I phoned the independent I've used and he emailed me a 'clutch release solenoid reset procedure' to try. I did this, and it has made it considerably worse. It changes rapidly at high revs as it should, but reeaaalllly slowly at low revs and speed, as if the clutch is slipping, though I'm not sure it is the clutch. There's certainly no chance of a quite take off! Andy would no doubt explain what it is doing far better than I, as unfortunately for him he had it after the reset, (and I haven't wanted to drive it since it's return on Saturday for fear of getting it dirty! Andy detailed it for me, looks fantastic!)

I've an appointment with DL's tomorrow for a clutch wear reading. It doesn't jump out of gear, neither does it slip once in gear. Can I ask the dealer do the PIS adjustment, I guess is what I need to know?

plain answer is yes you can , DBW doesn't make any difference , tho have you tried a battery reset for min 20 mins , turn on ign wait a couple of mins before starting , leave ticking over for 10 mins on idle , then take her out for a spin and drive it like you stole it for 100 miles , you dont have do do the 100 miles in one stint tho (hahaha) they have a self re-learning programme up to 100 miles after the re-set , that should sharpen things up a bit , gear change throttle repsonse etc , but to reduce your PIS time/setting will slightly increase your change time

regards loz

 

[toomanyhorses]

plain answer is yes you can , DBW doesn't make any difference , tho have you tried a battery reset for min 20 mins , turn on ign wait a couple of mins before starting , leave ticking over for 10 mins on idle , then take her out for a spin and drive it like you stole it for 100 miles , you dont have do do the 100 miles in one stint tho (hahaha) they have a self re-learning programme up to 100 miles after the re-set , that should sharpen things up a bit , gear change throttle repsonse etc , but to reduce your PIS time/setting will slightly increase your change time

regards loz

I did that before the clutch reset. Maybe I'll do it again, as I can't imagine Andy "drove like he stole it". (I did for a 'moment', and it didn't go down very well!)

Have just been to pick my son up from School, and Andy's right, it is much worse after the reset!

Could it be the release solenoid? Though, I'm guessing it is more likely software settings. I'll get them to fiddle tomorrow.

Cheers again Loz!

 

[lozcb]

I did that before the clutch reset. Maybe I'll do it again, as I can't imagine Andy "drove like he stole it". (I did for a 'moment', and it didn't go down very well!)

Have just been to pick my son up from School, and Andy's right, it is much worse after the reset!

Could it be the release solenoid? Though, I'm guessing it is more likely software settings. I'll get them to fiddle tomorrow.

Cheers again Loz!

Prey tell what you were told re the solenoid reset, its a new one on me , and always happy to learn something new



regards loz

 

[toomanyhorses]

Prey tell what you were told re the solenoid reset, its a new one on me , and always happy to learn something new



regards loz

This is a screen shot of the section sent to me for a late 4200/gs. Though mine won't select 2nd when stationary, so it was suggested to use 1-N-1-N-1, etc

(tried to landscape it, wouldn't work, just tilt your head!)

 

[Andyk]

I did that before the clutch reset. Maybe I'll do it again, as I can't imagine Andy "drove like he stole it". (I did for a 'moment', and it didn't go down very well!)

Have just been to pick my son up from School, and Andy's right, it is much worse after the reset!

Could it be the release solenoid? Though, I'm guessing it is more likely software settings. I'll get them to fiddle tomorrow.


Cheers again Loz!

Wasn't just me then........no didn't drive it like I stole it as I'll leave that to you as you did it so well..........it def feels like the clutch is slipping. At first in non sport mode in 1st and 2nd and mainly slow town driving......then it moved to 3rd and 4th.....at first it wouldn't happen in sport but did after a day or so.......I'm sure DL can sort Mark as you have done all the above.

 

[BennyD]

Loz, I had my PIS point adjusted down from 5.3 down to 4.6. Russell said he was having problems trying to adjust it down any further. He reset the parameters as well and it has sharpened the whole thing up quite a bit. I might see if any other Indie can get it down further. Good so far!