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spkennyuk

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Mark. I'm grateful that you not only started the thread that brought this issue to my attention but also continue to fight on behalf of us all. I'm suprised by some of the less favourable comments that have appeared in the last few days. I have mentioned before that some other manufacturers have had wishbone issues that have resulted in a recall to inspect and replace.

Another two have come to my attention today. Subaru which were subject to a recall and inspection followed by either a coating or replacement. Steel arms replaced with alloy arms.

The more interesting one is Mercedes. It's interesting as there were only 93 vehicles involved but the recall was still issued. It's also interesting because its the same issue raised in this thread and the result was a recall to inspect and replace. Details below of the Mercedes recall.

MERCEDES BENZ BUS announced a problem with the CC/TC 400 ANF TOURO affecting a total of 93 vehicles.

There is a possibility of the front wishbones cracking which if ignored could, in the worst case, lead to front suspension detachment. Vehicles built from 01/01/2005 to 12/31/2006 are at risk.

The following remedial action is necessary to address this problem. Recall the vehicles that are likely to be affected to carry out a specific check sequence and then to inspect the wishbones. Where any signs of cracking is found both the wishbones are to be replaced.

I'm not suggesting this is a common problem across many manufacturers. However there are at least three other manufactures that have had issues with cracking wishbones and all three have issued recalls and Mercedes in particular for lowers numbers than we are talking about across all 3200/4200/GS and variants of them.

Hopefully the news from Maserati amd DVSA will be positive, but if it isn't then hopefully we can use the Mercedes example and others as a point of reference for previous action for the same issue.
 

davy83

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I was not trying to suggest we ignore this, by the way, i agree Maserati should really sort this out, my morris minor story was more of a kind of "this sort of thing has happened before and will happen again" kind of story. I am extremely glad for the work that has been done here and like the others i think anything we can do to make people aware and try to get Maserati to behave in a responsible way is worth doing. i agree if we prevent one major accident then this is all worth the effort, behind it all the way.
The reason i knew my Morris Minor might self destruct at any moment was an enthusiast told me about it, so it is vital to spread the word on these sort of issues.

I know this won't help but i had Morris minor for a while, many years ago, and despite there being many of these over 50 years old and it being a much respected car, it had a weak front suspension design where the lower part of the front suspension would separate from the car. I kept an eye on my suspension once i learned of this problem then, just as i am now with my 3200! I kept driving the Morris Minor and I will keep driving the 3200.
 

voicey

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This is interesting! Take note Maserati you Cockwombles!

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This press release is a bit of a joke from Ferrari. The OEM ball joints are made from chrome plated mild steel - once the chrome wears off the steel rots and the joint starts knocking. In the early days of the 360 (when this type of joint was first used) Ferrari would replace the joint in the old arm. Then they had a change of heart and decided to only replace the entire arm should the joint fail. This was fine if you had a warranty but expensive (over £1k) if you had to fund the repair yourself.

Hill Engineering developed a superior stainless steel joint and the everyone started using their joints (the parts were a reasonable £150). Ferrari have realised they are missing a trick here so have reverted to the old protocol of replacing the joint.

Make no mistake, this is nothing to do with saving their customers money but to make Ferrari (and their agents) more profit.
 

highlander

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is anyone able to price the bones in the EU? the price here seems to be creeping up again and just wonder if we in the UK are getting a "special" ticket price compared to the rest of the EU?
 

Zep

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I've asked my cousin in Naples to price some parts, I'll confirm what I find out...


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Maserharti

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I had a quote from the Maserati dealer in Verona in July 2015, they wanted 1000€ in advance to do the order.
Cost was 2 x 1210€. this excluded tax which I think would be another 22 - 23 % .
Sadly I looked back at a quote from november 2012 from Bill McGrath for £420 for the l/h lower arm…
 

miket

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I'm sure someone could make an aftermarket pattern part (with removable ball joint) for less than what is currently on offer, Maserati are just pulling our pants down here!
 
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Ok so iv had no reply. it appears a more user friendly sticky thread to catch the attention of all lurker coupe owners out there and give them the information they need to join in and put pressure on maserati isnt a good idea.

I dont see how, the more people check and take action on this the better our chances.
 

nicolasb32

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all,

I got a letter from MASERATI this morning regarding the suspension lever: they are basically warning that lack of maintenance could lead to issues with suspension lever bushes, which could in turn affect the integrity of the suspension lever arm.
So no recall in this case, and a gentle nudge to get the bushes checked in accordance with the service schedule.
 

highlander

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disappointed, but tbh, not surprised by that response given the way this has been treated contemptuously by both maserati and vosa throughout the process. just surprises me that they think that these cars suffer from lack of maintenance given the time and money we all lavish on them!!!
 

Gp79

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Lack of maintenance - service book full of main dealer stamps / folder full of invoices.

How do we get a refund on all the inadequate service/maintenance from main dealer network?? Think I will stick to the DIY servicing.

Luckily mine so far has not had this problem yet, but still annoyed at those statements.
 

Contigo

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Wife received this as did I.

It's funny because her car has always been main dealer Maserati service so any lack of maintenance falls to them. Utter Utter wanker5.

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saintetienne

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Absolute bunch of - c u next week on the day after Monday ,

they were happy to recall the cars for the steering rack welding , obviously this is going to cost a whole lot more so they are not playing ball .

Would be interested to know how "correct vehicle maintenance" would stop this . Or do they mean take it to a main stealer and these are now a service item !


unbelievable :frustrating:
 

D Walker

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If it can't be resolved with them I think the collective should come together and sort it amongst ourselves and look at an alternative route & possibly manufacture and produce replacements. Not sure where to start but there has been plenty of "engineering" solutions all ready on this forum.

Oh........and cancel my Alfieri !!!!! You did not want me when I was a used car customer so........
 

Contigo

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Dave don't worry we are already going down that route but it still sucks. Everyone on here with a deposit down on a new Ghibli, QP or Alfieri should cancel on this. **** 'em!