MarkMas
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Thanks!
I don't think there was any difference in build quality, it was just 'newer seems better'. Actually, I'm pretty sure miles and care matters much more than age.
Attention all QPV connoisseurs Advice needed. About to pull trigger on QPV 4.2
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Thanks!
I don't think there was any difference in build quality, it was just 'newer seems better'. Actually, I'm pretty sure miles and care matters much more than age.
rs48635
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exactly my thoughts on Skyhook
Sport = artificially stiff / uncompliant
non-sport = roly-poly. compared to 'sports cars', but still very good compared to any regular saloon.
Not sure if this is a factor these days when looking for a used QP V in good condition. The GT S is rare beast and non-skyhook 4.2 likely more so.
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I bought a skyhook 4.2 ZF QPV with paddles and was deliriously happy with it.
18 months layer I am even more deliriously happy with it.
Swoopy and lucid it is, then on corners the accelerometers tell the skyhooks to stiffen up, the entire 2 ton car shrinks to something the size of a 911 and it goes round the corner as if on rails. Exiting roundabouts, it puts the hugest grin on my face.
I don't think you should say "no" to a 4.2. As advised by others, drive a few QPVs, preferably various sorts (I did.) I found they differed, but none disappointed.
The only thing I did find was that because of the way I prefer to drive, the gear change paddles are a huge advantage. But you will find others here who would not pay extra for them. So: personal preferences matter. Drive some.
18 months layer I am even more deliriously happy with it.
Swoopy and lucid it is, then on corners the accelerometers tell the skyhooks to stiffen up, the entire 2 ton car shrinks to something the size of a 911 and it goes round the corner as if on rails. Exiting roundabouts, it puts the hugest grin on my face.
I don't think you should say "no" to a 4.2. As advised by others, drive a few QPVs, preferably various sorts (I did.) I found they differed, but none disappointed.
The only thing I did find was that because of the way I prefer to drive, the gear change paddles are a huge advantage. But you will find others here who would not pay extra for them. So: personal preferences matter. Drive some.
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When I hear a car trader say something as irrelevant as that, expecting me to be impressed,
I really, really, really want to punch them very hard in the throat. No anger involved.
I just feel that it's an appropriate response and one which may dissuade them from resorting
to fluent boll##ks in future, when Her Majesty's English is the accepted language of business.
UlstermanAbroad
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What in the name of F##K is s/he dangling from the end of their chin?
The value of QPVs is going to take a major hit, if this video ever goes viral.
Thus far, I thought so-called top knots were as bad as things got.
Hopefully thinking of something truly horrible. Like John Major
brutally ******* Edwina Curry, might erase the few seconds I saw,
before I was able to hit stop!
MarkMas
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....The only thing I did find was that because of the way I prefer to drive, the gear change paddles are a huge advantage. But you will find others here who would not pay extra for them. So: personal preferences matter. Drive some.
My 4.2 didn't have flappy paddles, but my 4.7 does have them. It was one of my upgrade wish list items, but TBH I have hardly used them, as the ZF box is so good (and I am lazy). Maybe I should get some driving lessons from @Alan Surrey
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I think you've made the right decision with holding fire... I've been spoilt and only ever drove (and now own) the 4.7 Sport GT S QPV, so couldn't offer any meaningful comparison between a 4.7 S or a facelift 4.2. The forum consensus seems to be that the 4.7 variants sound better (even more so with the GT S given the stock sports exhaust it left the factory with), but keep an eye on the engine number per Zep's post re: Variators.
Be prepared to walk away if your PPI highlights a beyond-economical-repair subframe... I speak from experience.
If you're not in a rush, try out one of the 4.7 S ones currently up for sale... you'll get a good sense of whether the 4.2 meets your needs, or if the full-fat 4.7 is worth holding out for.
Whereabouts are you based?
Cheers, Im glad I didn’t pull the trigger! Will test drive a 4.7 in the new year, for me the 4.2 felt a little heavy and not enough power for the weight of the car, could just be me. The GTS looks a bit to sporty for my liking not keen on the styling and alcantara steering wheel
100% will go for a PPI prior to purchase there are many independent specialists not too far away from me (Bedford).
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Specs will all differ and if you find a good one but with an alcantara wheel or worst still red calipers, they are easily changed for little money. Most of us have to make some sacrifices for the right car.
how rare or shall I say how many QPV are in the UK? I’ve only been looking for the last 3 or so months.. but my aim would be to have a good condition blue QPV a on my driveway by Easter
Dom
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There’s no getting away from the QP being a heavy car - at higher revs the engine hides it better, and whilst the 4.7 will help it won’t completely evade the mass of the vehicle. Mine seems to come alive at 3.5/4k rpm… for some reason in auto mode the ZF box loves to shift up to 5th when it’s probably better off in 3rd!
A leather steering wheel was standard in the Sport GT S, as it was in all facelift QPVs I believe. Alcantara, CF or Titanex steering wheels were extra options.
I see the occasional pre-facelift QPVs here and there…. a rare sight to see a facelift one on the roads.
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You should find what you want in the spring. Here is a list of all the 2007-2011 QPVs that I noted as being for sale in March and April last year.
[Edit: ...and when I say last year, I mean this year - 2021]
| Year | Engine | Exterior | Interior | Price | Miles |
| 2007 | 4.2 | Black | Cream | £8,999 | 109,000 |
| 2007 | 4.2 | Blue | Cream | £12,250 | 25,000 |
| 2007 | 4.2 | Black | Beige | £12,500 | 75,000 |
| 2007 | 4.2 | Black | Black | £14,995 | 75,443 |
| 2008 | 4.2 | Black | Grey? | £11,450 | 69,000 |
| 2008 | 4.2 | Silver | Black | £11,995 | 75,000 |
| 2008 | 4.7 | Grey | Cream | £20,995 | 25,000 |
| 2009 | 4.2 | Blue | Grey | £12,200 | 79,620 |
| 2009 | 4.7 | Blue | Beige | £15,995 | 86,000 |
| 2009 | 4.2 | Grey | Black | £16,499 | 31,468 |
| 2009 | 4.2 | Grey | White | £16,945 | 44,000 |
| 2009 | 4.2 | Grey | Ivory | £16,945 | 44,000 |
| 2009 | 4.7 | Grey | Grey | £17,500 | 86,000 |
| 2009 | 4.7 | Grey | Grey | £17,995 | 41,000 |
| 2010 | 4.2 | Grey | Black | £16,750 | 52,500 |
| 2010 | 4.7 | Grey | Black | £23,995 | 28,000 |
| 2011 | 4.7 | Grey | Blue | £23,000 | 54,808 |
| 2011 | 4.7 | Red | Black | £26,000 | 54,300 |
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makeshiftUK
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I'm disappointed that you didn't capture any digits after the decimal point in the price column... tsk!!
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For what it’s worth, I have had 2 GS’s, Granturismo S, Sport, MC Strad and GranCab Sport, all from new, so have had the full combo of 4.2, 4.7, auto-manual and ZF Auto.
I always hankered after a non facelift QPV Sport GT with the CambioCorsa box and managed to find one back in May. The intention was to put it away as a project car as I plan to do a QPV RestoMod project over the next few years ranging from expensive to “stupid” BUT I have been using it almost as a DD as it is that good. Ok, my dislike of Skyhook is well documented and the passive set up in the Strad was/is awesome, but it’s one of the best balanced cars I have ever owned and/or driven.
I never liked the facelift and didn’t want auto and have absolutely no regrets in getting a 4.2… ok the RestoMod project plans to amend that, but I will choose to drive it over all my other cars at the moment…
Good luck,
Stu
I always hankered after a non facelift QPV Sport GT with the CambioCorsa box and managed to find one back in May. The intention was to put it away as a project car as I plan to do a QPV RestoMod project over the next few years ranging from expensive to “stupid” BUT I have been using it almost as a DD as it is that good. Ok, my dislike of Skyhook is well documented and the passive set up in the Strad was/is awesome, but it’s one of the best balanced cars I have ever owned and/or driven.
I never liked the facelift and didn’t want auto and have absolutely no regrets in getting a 4.2… ok the RestoMod project plans to amend that, but I will choose to drive it over all my other cars at the moment…
Good luck,
Stu