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Yes, my point was more related to road safety and avoiding the risk of bus-related mishaps.
Are you worried yet.
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Hopefully someone took something of a message that "It's bad, but it might not be as bad as you think"
Is that a bad thing? Sorry
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R > 1 means the number of cases is increasing.
coronavirus.data.gov.uk
1.2 to 1.3 with a daily infection growth rate range of +2% to +5% as of 15 January 2021.
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Official Coronavirus (COVID-19) disease situation dashboard with latest data in the UK.
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Someone above made a comment about masks being next to useless. The "stupid people" in this country believe you can spend 25p on a cheap mask and you are good to go until the strings break. Most people are going around with a "one time use" mask and think they are protecting the world. WRONG.
Poor education by the Government, ****, they told us all to not buy masks for the first three months of the pandemic because they hadn't got enough for the NHS staff. You really have to put a lot of blame at the door of the Government in this mis-advice. No wonder a lot of the general public don't want to use them. I am not trying to make a political point here but it was plainly very poor advice.
For full disclosure I was wearing a cloth mask with filter and changing the filter every week (it came with 10 spares) but now I wear an N95 mask as the transmission rate is through the roof in my area.
Poor education by the Government, ****, they told us all to not buy masks for the first three months of the pandemic because they hadn't got enough for the NHS staff. You really have to put a lot of blame at the door of the Government in this mis-advice. No wonder a lot of the general public don't want to use them. I am not trying to make a political point here but it was plainly very poor advice.
For full disclosure I was wearing a cloth mask with filter and changing the filter every week (it came with 10 spares) but now I wear an N95 mask as the transmission rate is through the roof in my area.
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So 1820 dead in last 24 hours and numbers of people being vaccinated in most vunerable groups now falling behind target rapidly, there really isn't much room for optimism. My wifes mum aged 91 hasn't been contacted yet!
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Possible Norway experience “rethink”?
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It’s doubtful, if you read the BMJ report Norway have not paused their program but are asking for extra checks for more frail elderly patients.
Covid-19: Norway investigates 23 deaths in frail elderly patients after vaccination
Doctors in Norway have been told to conduct more thorough evaluations of very frail elderly patients in line to receive the Pfizer BioNTec vaccine against covid-19, following the deaths of 23 patients shortly after receiving the vaccine. “It may be a coincidence, but we aren’t sure,” Steinar...
NOMA (Norwegian Medicines Agency) said “
Norwegian authorities have prioritised the immunisation of residents in nursing homes, most of whom are very elderly with underlying medical conditions and some of whom are terminally ill. NOMA confirm the number of incidents so far is not alarming, and in line with expectations. All reported deaths will be thoroughly evaluated by NOMA to determine if these incidents are related to the vaccine. The Norwegian government will also consider adjusting their vaccination instructions to take the patients’ health into more consideration.
Our immediate thoughts are with the bereaved families.”
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Seems the Uk won’t reveal its findings...... just yet.It’s doubtful, if you read the BMJ report Norway have not paused their program but are asking for extra checks for more frail elderly patients.
Covid-19: Norway investigates 23 deaths in frail elderly patients after vaccination
Doctors in Norway have been told to conduct more thorough evaluations of very frail elderly patients in line to receive the Pfizer BioNTec vaccine against covid-19, following the deaths of 23 patients shortly after receiving the vaccine. “It may be a coincidence, but we aren’t sure,” Steinar...www.bmj.com
NOMA (Norwegian Medicines Agency) said “
Norwegian authorities have prioritised the immunisation of residents in nursing homes, most of whom are very elderly with underlying medical conditions and some of whom are terminally ill. NOMA confirm the number of incidents so far is not alarming, and in line with expectations. All reported deaths will be thoroughly evaluated by NOMA to determine if these incidents are related to the vaccine. The Norwegian government will also consider adjusting their vaccination instructions to take the patients’ health into more consideration.
Our immediate thoughts are with the bereaved families.”
“Asked if any deaths had occurred in UK patients after vaccination, the UK’s Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency (MHRA) said that details of all suspected reactions reported in association with approved covid-19 vaccines would be published along with its assessment of the data on a regular basis in the future”
Surely extra checks should have been done during testing......thats what testing is for.
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Here is some very alarming news unfortunately...............Israel have said that people who get the Pfiser vaccine and only get one dose are only protected 33%. Not the 89% that British government are relying on. They can't comment on the Astra Zenica vaccine. Pfiser always said three weeks between vaccine doses and seems we have just screwed over an awful lot of people.
Well that puts a massive effing spanner in the works if true.
Well that puts a massive effing spanner in the works if true.
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