Are you worried yet.
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CatmanV2
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Two (actually many more) ways of looking at it:
0.05% of the total population
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(something like) 100% more deaths than we'd get in a normal year (this figure will be subject to significant revision after some time when deaths from all causes stabilise. It's distinctly possible that we will see fewer deaths later in the year from all causes, later in the year. Or we may not)
Just pulled those figures using data from the ONS:
Total deaths, all ages, w/e April24 2020: 21997
Total deaths, all ages, average w/e April 24 2014-2019: 10458
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0.05% of the total population
Or
(something like) 100% more deaths than we'd get in a normal year (this figure will be subject to significant revision after some time when deaths from all causes stabilise. It's distinctly possible that we will see fewer deaths later in the year from all causes, later in the year. Or we may not)
Just pulled those figures using data from the ONS:
Total deaths, all ages, w/e April24 2020: 21997
Total deaths, all ages, average w/e April 24 2014-2019: 10458
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Yes. 4 fatalities at a minimum at a care home, and a friends sister fighting for life on a ventilator in icu (early 30s with 3 kids). Dont forget that statistically it's still quite low risk and many people arent that social, but that doesnt mean for some it's not devastating families and communities.
I'm not a statistician, but it will be interesting to see if there is a drop or increase in deaths later in the year as a result of lockdown. People generally appear to be eating healthier, walking, cleaner air, rtas etc. Then on the flip side the mental health impact and avoiding hospital and doctors for illnesses that could be life threatening. I'm certain without lockdown the figures would be a heck of a lot worse.
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Europe on a 'knife's edge' as coronavirus lockdown measures are eased
European leaders are pushing ahead with plans to ease lockdowns and restart their battered economies amid fears of a second wave of coronavirus cases and deaths.
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And there is lies, dammed lies and statistics - perhaps if they compare the overall health per head of nations Britain could be low down the list (obesity/diabetis/etc) and maybe that could explain a higher death rate - and maybe in a few months time deaths in care homes could be lower than expected.......
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Obesity has to be one of today's biggest problems and I blame that on all the Fast Food.
In my time in NZ it was quite noticeable with some really big people but in 2014 you could buy a Pizza from the big players for $5
When I left still $5 and I bet the same today.
It was more expensive buying one in a supermarket.
For a small county every kind of takeaway that you could imagine.
In my time back in Europe most people look normal.
In my time in NZ it was quite noticeable with some really big people but in 2014 you could buy a Pizza from the big players for $5
When I left still $5 and I bet the same today.
It was more expensive buying one in a supermarket.
For a small county every kind of takeaway that you could imagine.
In my time back in Europe most people look normal.
philw696
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Probably the safest way but going to hurt a lot of people in many ways.
New Zealand PM: No open borders for 'a long time'
But Jacinda Ardern said "a safe zone of travel" between Australia and her country may be possible.
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The numbers have to drop , to put it bluntly the people in care homes that would've died naturally over the next few months aren't there to be in the future figures because they're in the CV19 numbers
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It’s so random. I knew one lady here in West Wales who died from Covid19 and saw her only the day before lockdown. She had teenage kids and I think she was in her fifties. Also in West Wales, a grandmother of a friend passed away with it - a care home victim. Heard of another death in a village 10 miles away but no one else I know here has had it, as far as I or they know. Friends in the Midlands have had it and lived to tell the tale.
It’s hard to get my head around the asymptomatic carriers - are they superhuman or do they just have a very mild imperceptible version which won’t hurt many people? Or does it mutate from one person to the next gaining strength as it goes? or something else?
Despite being a Maserati fan, I like to have as much info as possible before assessing risk and going out is a risk I’m currently not willing to take for the sake of my 78 year old Dad, who I think is starting to think we’re imprisoning him...
It’s hard to get my head around the asymptomatic carriers - are they superhuman or do they just have a very mild imperceptible version which won’t hurt many people? Or does it mutate from one person to the next gaining strength as it goes? or something else?
Despite being a Maserati fan, I like to have as much info as possible before assessing risk and going out is a risk I’m currently not willing to take for the sake of my 78 year old Dad, who I think is starting to think we’re imprisoning him...
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Anyone else smelling a whiff of ramped up nothingburger here? Seems now that 59% of dead people were in care homes. Starting to think that we ramped up on treating the wrong part of the population?
Back to work everybody? Overhyped sensationlist nothing to see here going on?
Just asking.
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Getting interesting here in France as it appears that deaths recorded on the WHO site don't include deaths at home recorded by GP's of CV19.
My guess this will be the same in other countries too and as time goes on the current numbers will be a píss in the ocean.
My guess this will be the same in other countries too and as time goes on the current numbers will be a píss in the ocean.
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At the end of the day, it is what it is , and questions will asked , I just can't help but feel we have ,as other countries have ,over reacted , but I think the nightingales were always and should remain a necessary insurance policy ,
The longer this goes on ,the harder it is too admit that we have over reacted
I think it entirely depends on location, lifestyle, general health, genetic makeup etc. Did see over react? Maybe. But I'd prefer this to under reacting and seeing the alternative after Iain and my inlaws take on things as well as communities hard hit and other personal stories. I say this from a comfortable position being able to wfh with my family safe and in good health. I might have a different view if my day to day was severely disrupted and I was on the breadline.
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I was only reflecting with my wife today how (with the exception of the two on here) we just don’t know anyone who has either been tested as positive or died and that includes families of friends.
Also I have 800 employees “on the front line” we have only had 5 tested positive and only 1 hospitalised but thankfully home now.
It’s an odd thing because people are dying and the death rate is definitely up.
Ill keep counting my blessings
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Thank god the majority of people out there think like you. I have really tried not to come back to read on the forum much after reading the comments of a handful of members. But even tonight there are a couple of literally jaw dropping ones. Glad to hear the majority have escaped personal tragedy - I hope the same goes for phases 2 and 3. I am just looking forward to the car dealerships opening again so I can go for escapism. Stay safe all...
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