EasyMAS Diagnostic Release

[spkennyuk]

Hi ,


As for sales - EasyMAS Read only units are starting to shift, it may mean we have to ship on a first come first serve basis.

Also we will not engage in ping / pong posts about other solutions compared to EasyMAS, we stand by the growing ability of EasyMAS and will not enter into pricing discussions which if we understand correctly are stated as being between £10 to £25000.

Regards

Good to hear that your starting to shift some units. Hopefully it is the start of great things ahead.

For the record ive not mentioned specific prices of other products in comparison to yours.

Somebody else mentioned a £15 item would not be able read PIS settings.

I did mention the approx cost of sd2/sd3 to buy in relation to richards phone issue meaning it not practical to buy it to fix diagnose his issue.

I was also at pains to point out that you had already replied to richard that the first version of EasyMas would not be able to interegate the NIT. Obviously your reply at the time indicated that future versions may be able to.

I did ask a specific question regarding the £199 annual fee to keep the write ability of the software functional. You replied with "the read / reset software will not expire and will function normally"

Which nicely side stepped a fair question.

Cquadphil asked a specific question if it was possible to start with the read version and upgrade to the full read and write function at a later date. The reply was yes you need the read version and pay the difference. We have to assume that you mean an additional £1400 rather than an additional £199 for a 12 month licence. A full answer would have been helpful.

We do seem have a different product to what was first suggested on the beta thread as an affordable solution for the enthusiast. "Then once confidence is raised we will sell the system at a 3 month introductory offer to forum members at £395, free updates, free worldwide shipping and 3 year warranty on the hardware. Our Web store price will be £495 from the date of release."

As stated previously i wish you the best of luck with your endeavour and hopefully you can tailor the product to other brands with the same hardware to increase your market share.

Best wishes.

 

[Wanderer]

We do seem have a different product to what was first suggested on the beta thread as an affordable solution for the enthusiast. "Then once confidence is raised we will sell the system at a 3 month introductory offer to forum members at £395, free updates, free worldwide shipping and 3 year warranty on the hardware. Our Web store price will be £495 from the date of release."

^^^ This......

 

[Steve4200]

^^^ This......

Your quoted posts are not the most recent - the one at the bottom of this post was in Dec 2019.

More ECU’s now covered and the final sell price is less than £650 - £750 as previously offered.
USB read only now £363.99 , later £449.99
BT read only now £479.99 , later £593.99
BT Write price was not previous offered.
As for free updates that has changed to a annual fee, that will aways be under review and it‘s your choice.

Hope that finally clears up any confusion.

Regards


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Hi ,

We are just finalising the first setup to sell.

There will be options :-

1.
Read only hardware and software for F1 gearbox , Skyhook , Steering , Engine OBDII.
These are done and ready to go. Free updates will be worked on and hoping to add Engine Enhanced , Airbag , Instrument Cluster and ABS. Ideal for any owner / buyer to diagnose these normally mystical systems.
This cost will be around £400 to £650 depending on USB , Bluetooth and bundle with Windows Tablet. This will be intro price for 1-3 months then rising to around £450 to £750.
When this goes on sell we will list compatible years and models - expecting most M138 , M139 and M145's.
Release expected late Jan / Feb 2020.

2.
Read , Write version with sort after functions. This will be costed higher with possible extra charge / subscription for upgrades as for use by repair shops due to the requirement for procedures to be carried as per manufacturers service documentation for safety and prevention of damage to vehicle systems if used incorrectly.
Release date / cost TBA - update in 2020.

Take some time to look back over previous posts for example software screenshots.

Will update as we go.

 

[Wanderer]

No problem, it's your product and pitch..

Just initially the impression was given (maybe assumed by me/us) that this was an enthusiasts solution but it's not.

I hoped it would be a great assist for us chaps with Maserati's and a decent set of spanners to, let's face it, replace our clutches, the CC/DS bête noir, but not be be. Good luck etc, but I won't be biting because it offers little more than we have already.

Not being nasty, but we have to be realistic, end product isn't what was hinted at initially.....

 

[Steve4200]

Hi ,

We are working on the following for future releases of EasyMAS :-
M138 - ABS and Airbag.
M139 - Parking Brake, Parking Sensor, TPMS.
M145 - Parking Brake, Parking Sensor, TPMS.
All - Enhanced Engine.

As for the NIT - This should be possible with EasyMAS in a future release. The communication needed should be just to the NIT , the GSM module has a data-bus directly to the NIT with no direct diagnostic. So if we can read the NIT then we should be good to go. In Richards case assuming the NIT is working in all other aspects the fault code U1012 must be the data-bus between NIT and the GSM module. I believe we have mentioned this before :- Faulty GSM module, no power to GSM module, damaged / faulty connection on the data-bus between the NIT and the GSM module.

As for sales - EasyMAS Read only units are starting to shift, it may mean we have to ship on a first come first serve basis.

Also we will not engage in ping / pong posts about other solutions compared to EasyMAS, we stand by the growing ability of EasyMAS and will not enter into pricing discussions which if we understand correctly are stated as being between £10 to £25000.

Regards

Also had some success with the M138 - Bridge Can ECU so will add that to the future update list.

Regards

 

[RichardSEL]

Your quoted posts are not the most recent - the one at the bottom of this post was in Dec 2019. <snip>

USB read only now £363.99 , later £449.99 <snip>
As for free updates that has changed to a annual fee, that will aways be under review and it‘s your choice. <snip>

This cost will be around £400 to £650 depending on USB , Bluetooth and bundle with Windows Tablet. <snip>

<web site> x EasyMAS Windows OS Software with 12 Months Software Updates and Support *

I'm assuming this means Windoze 10 for a laptop now. May I suggest you clarify what's the earliest Windows versions tested with? See my wibble below
AFAICR tablet versions are different

<wibble mode:ON>
Yes, I too would'n't have gone for Micro$haft again. Especially as I'm MCP with several years doing M$ support before my last job (Met control rooms were just updating their software from Windows 2000 to Windows XP when Vista came out!)
<sigh>
Wouldn't have minded but we "older" dispatchers used a version of Unix in a shell that had been re-written from BEA's cargo handling system -- that never fell over, unlike the specially written for Win2k program that cost the Met £millions...

So shelled out for a new Apple Macbook Air with all the goodies. And spent a fruitless four days trying to get it to accept Windows XP read/write access. Even senior online and on-'phone technical supports were at a loss that it could be seen but not accessed from WinXP machines. The other way round was fine. Eventually one found a note saying that backward compatibility with Windows OSs was limited to Windows 7. When they sell their new product as "Windows compatible".
(Mac OS 10.* is OK so long as SMB1 is installed)
Their refunds' division and their technical support efforts though were excellent...

I think the real VagCom had difficulties trying to get an Apple-compatible product to market. Trying to meet demands of iPhone customers...
<wibble mode:OFF>

Looking forward to getting hands on with EasyMAS

 

[RichardSEL]

<snip>
As for the NIT - This should be possible with EasyMAS in a future release. The communication needed should be just to the NIT , the GSM module has a data-bus directly to the NIT with no direct diagnostic. So if we can read the NIT then we should be good to go. In Richard's case assuming the NIT is working in all other aspects the fault code U1012 must be the data-bus between NIT and the GSM module. I believe we have mentioned this before :- Faulty GSM module, no power to GSM module, damaged / faulty connection on the data-bus between the NIT and the GSM module.
<snip>

Texa TSG3 reports:
Telematic Board Module Magneti Marelli - Infotelematic node (NIT)
- - status P Faults Yes

Dunno if that helps at all?

 

[Steve4200]

<web site> x EasyMAS Windows OS Software with 12 Months Software Updates and Support *

I'm assuming this means Windoze 10 for a laptop now. May I suggest you clarify what's the earliest Windows versions tested with? See my wibble below
AFAICR tablet versions are different

<wibble mode:ON>
Yes, I too would'n't have gone for Micro$haft again. Especially as I'm MCP with several years doing M$ support before my last job (Met control rooms were just updating their software from Windows 2000 to Windows XP when Vista came out!)
<sigh>
Wouldn't have minded but we "older" dispatchers used a version of Unix in a shell that had been re-written from BEA's cargo handling system -- that never fell over, unlike the specially written for Win2k program that cost the Met £millions...

So shelled out for a new Apple Macbook Air with all the goodies. And spent a fruitless four days trying to get it to accept Windows XP read/write access. Even senior online and on-'phone technical supports were at a loss that it could be seen but not accessed from WinXP machines. The other way round was fine. Eventually one found a note saying that backward compatibility with Windows OSs was limited to Windows 7. When they sell their new product as "Windows compatible".
(Mac OS 10.* is OK so long as SMB1 is installed)
Their refunds' division and their technical support efforts though were excellent...

I think the real VagCom had difficulties trying to get an Apple-compatible product to market. Trying to meet demands of iPhone customers...
<wibble mode:OFF>

Looking forward to getting hands on with EasyMAS

Hi Richard ,

The Windows compatibility is shown on the product info tabs , but we will make it clearer.
EasyMAS is tested on Windows XP SP2 to current WIndows 10.

Thank you for your support and interest in EasyMAS. Quality of support for this product will be one of our key drivers and we hope to serve you well.

Regards

 

[Steve4200]

Texa TSG3 reports:
Telematic Board Module Magneti Marelli - Infotelematic node (NIT)
- - status P Faults Yes

Dunno if that helps at all?

Hi ,

Slightly conflicting with the Leonardo.....
But we have seen this before as things do get lost in translation and terminology.

Interesting Magneti Marelli used “Telematic Box Modules” in the Brazilian F1 Grand Prix. This unit was for data and voice communication using GSM. So the reference comes back to the GSM Module in the QP albeit manufactured by Blaupunkt.

The GSM module should be swapped with a loaned unit in the first instance if no obvious connector / cable / power issues.

Regards

 

[RichardSEL]

Hi ,

Slightly conflicting with the Leonardo.....
But we have seen this before as things do get lost in translation and terminology.

Interesting Magneti Marelli used “Telematic Box Modules” in the Brazilian F1 Grand Prix. This unit was for data and voice communication using GSM. So the reference comes back to the GSM Module in the QP albeit manufactured by Blaupunkt.

The GSM module should be swapped with a loaned unit in the first instance if no obvious connector / cable / power issues.

Regards

Thanks for the fast response. Will have the 'phone module (on the back of the centre console bracket) swapped out first. What's interesting is that the handset doesn't light up at all. So dunno (coz of no circuit) whether the GSM module controls the access way to the 'phone handset
I've got a "control unit" (wherever that's located?) on standby in case.

IMHO, think someone in the past has ripped out the Navtraq as that couldn't be accessed by Vodafone on test. Even though the remote push button unit was still in the glove box (and LED lights up when pushed) Vodafone read the label number and said it matched the car's VRM according to their records. The Navtraq install was OEM

Look out for the next thrilling instalment ...

 

[Steve4200]

Thanks for the fast response. Will have the 'phone module (on the back of the centre console bracket) swapped out first. What's interesting is that the handset doesn't light up at all. So dunno (coz of no circuit) whether the GSM module controls the access way to the 'phone handset
I've got a "control unit" (wherever that's located?) on standby in case.

IMHO, think someone in the past has ripped out the Navtraq as that couldn't be accessed by Vodafone on test. Even though the remote push button unit was still in the glove box (and LED lights up when pushed) Vodafone read the label number and said it matched the car's VRM according to their records. The Navtraq install was OEM

Look out for the next thrilling instalment ...

The handset is powered via the GSM module ( If the only connection to handset is the phone type extension cable )

So guessing :-

GSM Module
White connector - Vehicle connection and 12vdc for the module.
Black socket / phone type - The handset.
Black connector - NIT connection
Green connector - Antenna


Regards

 

[philw696]

Latest version of launch v11.15 is still using 7 as the divisor. Instead of 5.62.

Not a big issue as i calculate it by hand if i need a reading.

Just updated to V11.20 this morning.

 

[RichardSEL]

The handset is powered via the GSM module ( If the only connection to handset is the phone type extension cable )

So guessing :-

GSM Module
White connector - Vehicle connection and 12vdc for the module.
Black socket / phone type - The handset.
Black connector - NIT connection
Green connector - Antenna


Regards

Hi Steve... Got the headunit out and swapped the GSM module. Et voila! Suddenly all's well, well GiffGaff charged me 25p for a local call to another mobile. But apart from that and having the book so I've still got to figure out how to work the handset, and see whether the autoanswer works in handsfree...

Got the cover off the old module and no charred component remains seen on either of the two PCBs in there -- so that's ready for eBait -- for spares or repair, £20 inc.


(stock photo only of an '06MY module)

 

[RichardSEL]

Hi Steve...

Engine OBDII - No adapter.
Suspension - No adapter.
ABS - No adapter.
Steering - No adapter.
Cluster - CAN2 adapter.
Airbag - CAN2 adapter.

Just a quick additional note as promised that I've been through all the diagnostics now on my '08MY QP5 M139 using the dongles you said to use per the above.

All works as it should, just a low voltage marker stored showing in ABS (from when I hadn't used the Mas for three weeks and that flatted the battery <groan!> )

And a high resistance showing on one of the wheel sensors (2.75Ω required, 3Ω showing) But that didn't show a fault.

The fuel trims were showing a little high so I reset them but didn't go out for a drive, I assume that'll be taken care of when I do?

I saw the service history and took a .pdf file of it but I don't know where those .pdf files are stored! I'd like to be able to cancel any Service Required indicator that may come up in the future. And add my own date and mileage entry.

Anyways, EastMAS for me does what it says on the tin. Just now waiting for the updates so I can use the M139 dongle instead of no dongle or CAN2

 

[Steve4200]

Hi Steve...

Engine OBDII - No adapter.
Suspension - No adapter.
ABS - No adapter.
Steering - No adapter.
Cluster - CAN2 adapter.
Airbag - CAN2 adapter.

Just a quick additional note as promised that I've been through all the diagnostics now on my '08MY QP5 M139 using the dongles you said to use per the above.

All works as it should, just a low voltage marker stored showing in ABS (from when I hadn't used the Mas for three weeks and that flatted the battery <groan!> )

And a high resistance showing on one of the wheel sensors (2.75Ω required, 3Ω showing) But that didn't show a fault.

The fuel trims were showing a little high so I reset them but didn't go out for a drive, I assume that'll be taken care of when I do?

I saw the service history and took a .pdf file of it but I don't know where those .pdf files are stored! I'd like to be able to cancel any Service Required indicator that may come up in the future. And add my own date and mileage entry.

Anyways, EastMAS for me does what it says on the tin. Just now waiting for the updates so I can use the M139 dongle instead of no dongle or CAN2

Hi Richard ,

Thank you for your valued response , we will give a detailed reply later today.

Regards

 

[Steve4200]

Hi Richard ,

Thank you for your valued response , we will give a detailed reply later today.

Regards

1. EasyMAS PDF Reports are stored in the desktop folder named "EasyMAS Workshop" There are then sub folders for each ECU Report, so in this case under "NQS Reports" is for the for cluster.

2. Update version 1.0.8 available very soon which addresses the QP module selection including some minor fixes and improvements.

Service History PDF Report example :-



Work in progress >>>
M139 / M145 Parking Sensor System
M139 / M145 Tyre Pressure Monitoring System
M138 Airbag
M138 ABS

Regards

 

[RichardSEL]

Yes. I have the .pdf of service history with #8 position blank. I don't know if any additional entries are added as #9, #10, etc. But would like to do my own brake fluid, coolant, engine oil, and ATF change eventually thus would want to switch off any "SERVICE NOW" reminder coming up on dash. And insert my own service interval entry into the electronic log.

 

[Steve4200]

Yes. I have the .pdf of service history with #8 position blank. I don't know if any additional entries are added as #9, #10, etc. But would like to do my own brake fluid, coolant, engine oil, and ATF change eventually thus would want to switch off any "SERVICE NOW" reminder coming up on dash. And insert my own service interval entry into the electronic log.

The Service Record is only 1 to 8, entry 8 is overwritten with any subsequent service.

Regards

 

[RichardSEL]

May I also suggest it might be worth a mention that when interrogating the ABS/Braking module users should expect to see the series of relevant icons come up on the dash?
The first time I did it (my first time with EasyMas unsupervised) I saw the icons and thought: "oh, that is unfortunate" (or words to that effect ;-)) And shut down IGN immediately hoping I'd stopped any rogue writing to the ABS's ECU memory...

Pls consider my service due warning and service history logging request. I do remember VagCom-VCDS does allow service due warnings to be cleared at least...

 

[Steve4200]

May I also suggest it might be worth a mention that when interrogating the ABS/Braking module users should expect to see the series of relevant icons come up on the dash?
The first time I did it (my first time with EasyMas unsupervised) I saw the icons and thought: "oh, that is unfortunate" (or words to that effect ;-)) And shut down IGN immediately hoping I'd stopped any rogue writing to the ABS's ECU memory...

Pls consider my service due warning and service history logging request. I do remember VagCom-VCDS does allow service due warnings to be cleared at least...

Yes , it’s is normal for communication with the ABS module to bring up the Dash warning symbols. Due to braking system being high up on the safety list these warnings serve as reminder that the system is in diagnostic mode.

We will consider adding a notification on EasyMAS to prevent any concern.

Reagrds