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Hi All!
Some of you might have seen foibles post regarding the damaged 3200GT at auction..
Yeah I'm the silly 21yr old who bought it :| the house deposit can wait
Guess who was more excited about it than I was? My father; Who legitimately picked it up the day we won the auction, and placed the winning bid on it on my behalf, and seen it on Manheim auction site the week prior and as to now, been attempting to be of some help(ONLY WHEN REQUESTED..) with this entire process
Anyway, my background is VW and Bosch systems as I work on 06-09 Polo GTI's, up to #7 and know the ins and outs quite well pretty much to the stage of waiting for parts to arrive from the US to start building an engine for a big turbo build. I frequent the VWWatercooled forum with the occasional build post. Located in South East Melbourne who anyway have another lockdown to endure. Luckily I have work most of the week and my final semester of my engineering degree, so lots to do and not a lot of time!
I'll do a quick catchup on the progress, I've been documenting and recording videos with this car because there are so many parts, and lord knows if they are even the correct or original fittings/fixtures as I have noticed it has been molested by someone silly... Anyway the manual I've bought off ebay is as good as my ability to do and see as it comes(and not break ****, pretty good at that). Other than the engine specifics, part numbers and the electronic mumbo jumbo, missing a lot of assembly information which is quite useful when you're unsure how to disassemble something
but anyway.. I saw this and thought to myself, it couldn't be that bad... Could it?
This is the car, day we got it; bit of a mess but it looks worse than it is(kind of.. will get to that later)
Would anyone like to guess the cause of this mess? Look closely and you will see
Where to start.... Well firstly it was evident to get rid of the soundproofing and the bonnet vents as they were goners and give a quick vacuum of all the big parts. I took the windscreen wipers off, along with the weather plastic cover to reveal the tone of powder sitting on the sill. As well as the dodgy fixup of one tab by someone. We realised vacuuming is practically useless to do this as this fire retardant is a little like glue. Sticks to the surface until agitated. We took as sample and brought it in to our local fire department and asked for someone a bit more experienced to help us out. The gentleman only mentioned that it's "toxic" to breathe in but had ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA HOW TO CLEAN IT.. bit ironic asking an experienced firefighter this... Mustn't be a chemist and we let that slide. Anyway
Masks on and off we went to cleaning it up as much as possible, whilst removing any damaged debris
As evident here, lot of this stuff got everywhere and soiled the BMC air filter on one side There is a lot going on and lots to learn for each system has its functions, lines and electronics going to and from. The fuel shot about the engine bay cooking lots of things, Relay cover, coolant tank, brake fluid reservoir, wiring, piping and the lot. Didn't go for long, but long enough to do the damage.
But because it was absolutely full of this powder, did the undesirable and took an air compressor to it as water doesn't really help with cleaning it off. Makes it thick and gunky, worse than if it's a powder. IPA, methanol, and I forget what else we tried, and it's all practically useless
Had its bit of glory and final sunshine before heading back into the garage for the process of complete dismantlement.
So same day we took all the easily accessible piping and parts off. What I read being the notorious throttle body, the intake manifold and few other bits and pieces around the bay.
At a closer look the LHS lambda probe wiring was cooked, custom job to rectify that coming soon. Engine wiring harness was way beyond gone, so that was to be ordered. Parts list had started growing by the hour.
Backtracking a little, second day when I was bored I started to deal with the interior, due to the fact it had a broken pioneer flip up head unit a saggy headliner and few other trims that I wanted re-glued and refinished. So started the dreaded journey of the dash... It was in a million pieces until I finally found the two hidden screws on the upper section holding it in!!! Absolute nightmare.. I've still got the seats in, although I would like to take them out so I can vacuum, wet vac the carpet and get everything nice and tidy before putting it back in. Any advice here to get them to actuate forward+back without power would be appreciated!
I've only got videos of the interior disassembly as I discovered a lot of hidden gems which I'm really ashamed to even mention that someone could do to such a beautiful vehicle like... some smart-head had bits apart and missed so many screws and... I just can't
Not to even mention the radio wiring job, absolute disaster... Like it seemed like it worked? But it's not even close to my standards of neatness and tidiness that it must be. Anyway, had the pioneer unit checked, rebuilt and tested by my good friend(who also convinced me to get the car hahaha) Have it ready to just plug in once the dash is back together! Anyway, door trims, headliner and rear quarter trims off and to Blackmans restoration, yet to hear back from them if they've got it done or not, will see this week.. Not much else to the interior other than the botched mounted JBL speakers in the rear sides. Also need to figure something out there. Stock for the moment will do, albeit they do be $100 a piece so... maybe not, but something proper to suit the elliptically shaped holes.
Nicee...
Took a trip to Maserati in Richmond, with a whole sheet of parts to ask for prices, like any normal person would do given they have a broken vehicle. Whilst waiting to be served we asked one gentleman who was working about a few things. What's a basic service set us back. "Anything from $1500-50,000" jaw drop and where can we get a car painted who is Maserati approved. Either Luxury Auto Body in Cliffton hill or Zagame Tullamarine. longish story, anyway.
The lady managing the parts department was awesome as she got to the point right away. No Maserati do not supply parts anymore, look at Eurospares or Scudaria, BUT I will photocopy your list and check anyway, maybe there is something. Called me back later and yeah, nothing...
So have ordered from Germany: Engine wiring loom, coolant bottle, brake fluid bottle, both air filter housings and there goes $500... Which is not bad considering we had it all sent to our wonderful family friend in the town next to the sellers, and had him ship all of it to us (to avoid $150 per item shipping costs)! It's sadly delayed for the past 9 days, cleared and awaiting a flight to Australia, but can't do anything there...
After that, I made a big 1500£ order with Eurospares, as they seemed to have the majority of the items available that I needed. This is still in the process and I will post a list of parts if anyone knows/has or can acquire them, I am more than happy to pay for the part and postage via Paypal, given it's a reasonable amount for the item/items.
TBC in a few minutes lol, can only attach 10 photos per post
Some of you might have seen foibles post regarding the damaged 3200GT at auction..
Yeah I'm the silly 21yr old who bought it :| the house deposit can wait
Guess who was more excited about it than I was? My father; Who legitimately picked it up the day we won the auction, and placed the winning bid on it on my behalf, and seen it on Manheim auction site the week prior and as to now, been attempting to be of some help(ONLY WHEN REQUESTED..) with this entire process
Anyway, my background is VW and Bosch systems as I work on 06-09 Polo GTI's, up to #7 and know the ins and outs quite well pretty much to the stage of waiting for parts to arrive from the US to start building an engine for a big turbo build. I frequent the VWWatercooled forum with the occasional build post. Located in South East Melbourne who anyway have another lockdown to endure. Luckily I have work most of the week and my final semester of my engineering degree, so lots to do and not a lot of time!
I'll do a quick catchup on the progress, I've been documenting and recording videos with this car because there are so many parts, and lord knows if they are even the correct or original fittings/fixtures as I have noticed it has been molested by someone silly... Anyway the manual I've bought off ebay is as good as my ability to do and see as it comes(and not break ****, pretty good at that). Other than the engine specifics, part numbers and the electronic mumbo jumbo, missing a lot of assembly information which is quite useful when you're unsure how to disassemble something
but anyway.. I saw this and thought to myself, it couldn't be that bad... Could it?
This is the car, day we got it; bit of a mess but it looks worse than it is(kind of.. will get to that later)
Would anyone like to guess the cause of this mess? Look closely and you will see
Where to start.... Well firstly it was evident to get rid of the soundproofing and the bonnet vents as they were goners and give a quick vacuum of all the big parts. I took the windscreen wipers off, along with the weather plastic cover to reveal the tone of powder sitting on the sill. As well as the dodgy fixup of one tab by someone. We realised vacuuming is practically useless to do this as this fire retardant is a little like glue. Sticks to the surface until agitated. We took as sample and brought it in to our local fire department and asked for someone a bit more experienced to help us out. The gentleman only mentioned that it's "toxic" to breathe in but had ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA HOW TO CLEAN IT.. bit ironic asking an experienced firefighter this... Mustn't be a chemist and we let that slide. Anyway
Masks on and off we went to cleaning it up as much as possible, whilst removing any damaged debris
As evident here, lot of this stuff got everywhere and soiled the BMC air filter on one side
There is a lot going on and lots to learn for each system has its functions, lines and electronics going to and from. The fuel shot about the engine bay cooking lots of things, Relay cover, coolant tank, brake fluid reservoir, wiring, piping and the lot. Didn't go for long, but long enough to do the damage.But because it was absolutely full of this powder, did the undesirable and took an air compressor to it as water doesn't really help with cleaning it off. Makes it thick and gunky, worse than if it's a powder. IPA, methanol, and I forget what else we tried, and it's all practically useless
Had its bit of glory and final sunshine before heading back into the garage for the process of complete dismantlement.
So same day we took all the easily accessible piping and parts off. What I read being the notorious throttle body, the intake manifold and few other bits and pieces around the bay.
At a closer look the LHS lambda probe wiring was cooked, custom job to rectify that coming soon. Engine wiring harness was way beyond gone, so that was to be ordered. Parts list had started growing by the hour.
Backtracking a little, second day when I was bored I started to deal with the interior, due to the fact it had a broken pioneer flip up head unit a saggy headliner and few other trims that I wanted re-glued and refinished. So started the dreaded journey of the dash... It was in a million pieces until I finally found the two hidden screws on the upper section holding it in!!! Absolute nightmare.. I've still got the seats in, although I would like to take them out so I can vacuum, wet vac the carpet and get everything nice and tidy before putting it back in. Any advice here to get them to actuate forward+back without power would be appreciated!
I've only got videos of the interior disassembly as I discovered a lot of hidden gems which I'm really ashamed to even mention that someone could do to such a beautiful vehicle like... some smart-head had bits apart and missed so many screws and... I just can't
Not to even mention the radio wiring job, absolute disaster... Like it seemed like it worked? But it's not even close to my standards of neatness and tidiness that it must be. Anyway, had the pioneer unit checked, rebuilt and tested by my good friend(who also convinced me to get the car hahaha) Have it ready to just plug in once the dash is back together! Anyway, door trims, headliner and rear quarter trims off and to Blackmans restoration, yet to hear back from them if they've got it done or not, will see this week.. Not much else to the interior other than the botched mounted JBL speakers in the rear sides. Also need to figure something out there. Stock for the moment will do, albeit they do be $100 a piece so... maybe not, but something proper to suit the elliptically shaped holes.
Nicee...Took a trip to Maserati in Richmond, with a whole sheet of parts to ask for prices, like any normal person would do given they have a broken vehicle. Whilst waiting to be served we asked one gentleman who was working about a few things. What's a basic service set us back. "Anything from $1500-50,000" jaw drop and where can we get a car painted who is Maserati approved. Either Luxury Auto Body in Cliffton hill or Zagame Tullamarine. longish story, anyway.
The lady managing the parts department was awesome as she got to the point right away. No Maserati do not supply parts anymore, look at Eurospares or Scudaria, BUT I will photocopy your list and check anyway, maybe there is something. Called me back later and yeah, nothing...
So have ordered from Germany: Engine wiring loom, coolant bottle, brake fluid bottle, both air filter housings and there goes $500... Which is not bad considering we had it all sent to our wonderful family friend in the town next to the sellers, and had him ship all of it to us (to avoid $150 per item shipping costs)! It's sadly delayed for the past 9 days, cleared and awaiting a flight to Australia, but can't do anything there...
After that, I made a big 1500£ order with Eurospares, as they seemed to have the majority of the items available that I needed. This is still in the process and I will post a list of parts if anyone knows/has or can acquire them, I am more than happy to pay for the part and postage via Paypal, given it's a reasonable amount for the item/items.
TBC in a few minutes lol, can only attach 10 photos per post
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