Oh Newton: What have you done now?

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So I started the day intending to bleed the brakes and find the water leak ahead of Bruntingthorpe....

It unravelled a bit:

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The air box is useless and the headlight levelling is pooped too, the bumper and wing are now ready for respray at least. I have not fully tracked down my water leak but it looks like it is the radiator which is handy as I have a new one of those...

Has anyone replaced their auxiliary belt and can advise the process as mine is very perished and cracked.

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Well what a lovely hot day to be doing that Newton........At least you're getting to the bottom of it.
 

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Newton, if the front bumper is left over after you've put the car back together, bags first dibs on it......;)


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A tortured soul mine Frank... unless replaced every bolt & screw will return to its correct location!

Phew what a day; not how I intended it to go but at least I have made a serious start on the jobs that need doing.

I have to track down new airbox anti-vibration mounts as all three are sheared off, these appear to be off the shelf items, however the lid of the box (actually the floor and side) is fixed by four retained bronze threaded blocks that appear to be very specialized, only one remains and that is spinning so I need to find an alternative, I'm thinking webbing straps top and bottom as these can have a buckle or pop over elastic or I could use a couple of over centre clips that I have.... I'll post whatever I do up on here anyway.

Off for a well deserved shower now...
 

safrane

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Newton. The air box screws are pants and even Emblem used cable-ties to fix mine in the past
 

philw696

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Mate just make s drawing of the route of the belt so you can put back the same. It has a automatic tensioner. You have got this far it will be a piece of cake. Phil.
 

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Thanks Phil, What'sthe thinking on replacing the crappy plastic pulleys or at least their bearings, I'm at about 53,000?
 

philw696

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Might be worth getting them off and seeing if a good independent factor can match them up they will probably be Alfa or Fiat.
 

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Just looked on Eurospares, they are also Enzo! Actually some interesting stuff... I have been thinking of changing all the cooling hoses as a service part given their age and apart from the top hose from rad to thermostat at £60 + the others are all quite reasonable. I may strip them out and see if I can get a match, ditto the thermostat; I'm in the habit of changing these before they fail too...
 

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One idler pulley matches a Beemer part, I posted it in the alternative parts. The tensioner pulley I could not find a match for the Dayco part no is not listed on the Dayco site. Must be a special for Maserati only.
 

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Ok so last Saturday I continued the strip down of the 4200 cooling system to replace all hoses and the radiator.

Started at the header tank, easy enough just the one small breather hose at the top and the larger supply hose out the bottom going down to the water pump, removed the header tank and mounting straps too; the only difficulty is the single use hose clips on the small pipes but able to get to these to break them out ok.

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The breather hose goes to a T and one to the top O/S of radiator with just the single jubilee clip to undo, the other branch disappears under the back of the plenum and is secured by a small single use clip, no real chance of seeing what you are doing so a call to Jeanette to hold the torch and peer in one side whilst I fell my way in from the other with a pair of pliers, a nip, twist and hey presto the clip was loosened enough to let the hose be pulled off the metal pipe (balloon end only not a barb thankfully).

IMG_3711.jpg You can just make out the pipe by the blue clip under the plenum!

So removed the heater matrix return hose (sod of a job single use clip) and reaching through the hole where my headlight is out, undid the jubilee clip on the water pump end and extracted the hoses.

Next is the fun bit, heater matrix feed hose is another single use but accessible on the bulkhead. Follow the feed hose down behind the engine and sitting across the top of the bell housing is a silver T-tube with a rubber right angle single use clipped at each end to the back of each bank of cylinders. The N/S one is reasonably accessible against the engine = it only took me an hour to fight with the clip with every tool in the kit before finally getting it off! The O/S one is near impossible to get anything to, especially when you have JCB hands! I ended up taking the breather pipe off the cam cover and the vacuum pipe off the brake servo just to give enough access to do some work. There is no possibility of getting pliers or anything with cutting capabilities in there I ended up using a flat file and literally with just a few millimetres of movement filling the bump off the clip = it took near on three hours though!

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Onto the radiator; unclip the two big hoses (nice big jubilee clips :) ), jack the front of the car as high as possible, try and undo the cowling bolts (4 x each top and bottom) snapped half of them! Undo all cable connections to fans and resistor (more about this thing later) and withdraw the cabling out over the wing. Remove the fan assembly bolts and drop the fans out the bottom. Removed the power steering radiator bolts and cable tied it to the bonnet shut.

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Removed the bolts to the A/C radiator and half of Thetford forest dropped out from between the radiators (that'll make a big difference to cooling), note to self to put some spacers in on rebuild! Cable tied the A/C radiator to the inner wings. Finally removed the bottom then top radiator mounting bolts, top N/S cushion mount sheared off though! Removed radiator out the bottom and then removed the remaining two big hoses from the water pump and thermostat housing.

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Next job is to remove the auxiliary belt but as I have not done one of this type before I had to work it out first, located the tensioner wheel and realised it is an offset cam wheel so you simply put a socket (15mm) on the wheel and leaver it away to take the tension off the belt and off comes the belt, nice and easy…

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Now the resistor…. What is this a resistor for? Anyone know? Should it look like this or should it be covered by the green stuff as I suspect it should be?

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Newton, can you tell us, hose by hose, their individual conditions, inside and out, especially at bends or rubbing points if any?

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safrane

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The resistor controls the cooling fan speeds I understand. It is poorly positioned and the weather makes it fail early in life.
 

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Yes Frank,

Big hoses = return from thermostat is a replacement (by me soon after I got it). Flow in reasonable condition if a little ballooned. Heater return (three medium size) reasonable but one rub point with a (Maserati recall) buffer fitted over also worn through! Heater flow and pipes from cylinders all reasonable with some ballooning as in photo above. All small bore venting pipes in reasonable condition. I may be being paranoid in wanting to change them all out but as I have to change the leaking radiator and they are all now 10 years old I figure it will be another 10 years peace of mind! I have been very aware on the forum of the 3200's in particular suffering bursts and I just don't want that for my baby.

Generally the coolant was shockingly bad for a bit over two years old and the whole system has a noticeable but thin grey almost washing machine like scum coating it. I'm guessing that must be aluminium oxide?
 

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Thanks Peter, should it be coated in the green though and do we have a match for it from Alfa or anywhere Eurospares list is £50 +?