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[Sam McGoo]

Yeah, but you still ended up with white callipers, so a bit of a disaster, really.

I chose to change them to white, because I knew it was the right thing to do

 

[Gazcw]

Yeah, but you still ended up with white callipers, so a bit of a disaster, really.

That was self inflicted. He had a spare radiator enamel rattle can.

 

[MarkMas]

I chose to change them to white, because I knew it was the right thing to do

 

[UlstermanAbroad]

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Well spotted. That's exactly like mine. Love the colour of the leather. Stock car. Not been messed about with. Perfect And....open to offers.

 

[Felonious Crud]

... having a decent dealer was worth it. I would have used Richard, Nuvola or ADG at that point.

You'd not go far wrong with any of them.

 

[UlstermanAbroad]

If they return the monies, and take the car back..no harm, no foul. Maybe they will learn from the lesson and go on to develop a decent business....
I'm not going to make assumptions based on the way they look, theri age, or the over selling hype of their "aspirational" web site...
Neither am I going to speculate as to how or why they came to be owing this car....It is conjecture. As to the generalisations about the area..FFS Get a grip man !

Its a simple reject- start again. All good....

Fair points Tim. We don't all see the same thing, when we look at something. And the conjecture, or educated guesses are entirely superfluous. As to my generalisation about the area. That is entirely true. If I had several days, I could give you chapter and verse going back thirty odd years. But again, its a moot point now.

 

[Tallman]

On AutoTrader there are 5 with much lower mileage, a few thousand more. Personally I would go for a lower mileage car with as few owners as possible and service history. Take as much risk out of the purchase as you can over getting the exact spec you want.

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[dickygrace]

All hugely overpriced in my opinion. He’s looking to spend £20k, if spending >£25k surely a 4.7 is the aim.

 

[MarkMas]

On AutoTrader there are 5 with much lower mileage, a few thousand more. Personally I would go for a lower mileage car with as few owners as possible and service history. Take as much risk out of the purchase as you can over getting the exact spec you want.

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I agree that few owners and good service history are very important. Care and wear matter. But I don't worry much about mileage; over about 50k miles, everything will need replacing eventually, it's just a matter of time.

Spec is more important than miles. I would be happy with a nice 2012 cream and wood interior QPV GT S with 100,000 miles.

 

[Tallman]

All hugely overpriced in my opinion. He’s looking to spend £20k, if spending >£25k surely a 4.7 is the aim.

Couldn't find a 4.7 under 28k on AutoTrader unless very high mileage (>85k)

 

[dickygrace]

Couldn't find a 4.7 under 28k on AutoTrader unless very high mileage (>85k)

No there aren’t any. There are a lot slightly dearer that have been advertised for over 12 months though.

My point was that the OP was looking for a £20k GT, not one at £25k or so. As this thread has proved, buying a £20k GT in the current market is risky business. A year ago the budget gave you the pick of them.

 

[TimR]

I've bought cars with 1 owner from new, full porsche service history and still cost me mega bucks.

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[Gazcw]

I agree that few owners and good service history are very important. Care and wear matter. But I don't worry much about mileage; over about 50k miles, everything will need replacing eventually, it's just a matter of time.

Spec is more important than miles. I would be happy with a nice 2012 cream and wood interior QPV GT S with 100,000 miles.

Agreed and that is why I got the Strad at a super low price because at 56k it was about to implode..

 

[Andyk]

Just read this from start to finish….Mr Spoon you have the patience of a saint. I think you are doing the right thing giving it back as at this rate it could cost you a bloody fortune if they don’t cough up. These cars are so hard to buy used and rarely is there a bargain at the lower price range. I do hope it goes your way and they do the right thing and as long as it has not put you off you will find a good car at your price range…Just get it checked out first by a specialist….They will always cost a lot to run but if you get the big things picked up in the inspection you are onto a winner….Good luck buddy…

 

[TimR]

I think you mean patience mate...!

 

[Andyk]

I think you mean patience mate...!

Yep I did notice….Speel cheek and not reading what I work is my down fall every tit…

 

[Tallman]

I've bought cars with 1 owner from new, full porsche service history and still cost me mega bucks.

I'm sure, but it's about probabilities...you try to play them, certainly if you buy unseen. So less owners, lower mileage, known history bring down the odds but of course nothing is 100% just like with the jab (piece of advice-don't go there....)

 

[hashluck]

No there aren’t any. There are a lot slightly dearer that have been advertised for over 12 months though.

My point was that the OP was looking for a £20k GT, not one at £25k or so. As this thread has proved, buying a £20k GT in the current market is risky business. A year ago the budget gave you the pick of them.

I suspect the point some are trying to make is, better to buy a really nice £25K one (with PPI etc.) than a £20K one that turns out to need £6K+ spending on it and still won't be as good as the £25K one. £20K is great if it buys you a car that is at least safe.

 

[Tallman]

How much better would someone do viewing a car in person?
No 14 day protection.
Rose tinted specs.

I'd say you're more likely to end up in a pickle, yet the difference might be, people not communicating it clearly.

My post wasn't about not buying unseen, it was about bringing down the risk WHEN you buy unseen but if you don't mind returning a few lemons until you hit the jackpot that's another story...just seems like a waste of time to me but to each his own

 

[Scaf]

How much better would someone do viewing a car in person?
No 14 day protection.
Rose tinted specs.

I'd say you're more likely to end up in a pickle, yet the difference might be, people not communicating it clearly.

The 14days is or should be very helpful if things go wrong but in the grand scheme of things the general consumer protection legislation still favours the consumer and I would think viewing a car and getting inspected is most likely to be the most reliable route.
Having said that, I bought my Strad “sight unseen” off some random guy up north, think his nickname was Dickie or some such like …….